Alex Grand , Bill Field and special guest host, Comic Book Ph.D, Peter Coogan discuss 1984 as the year of Marvel and DC shifting toward corporate multimedia cross pollination with Secret Wars and Super Powers. Zot! by Scott McCloud and TMNT by Eastman and Laird and the larger independent 80s comic books markets as a trend toward recognition of creator rights, the 1960s Marvel co-creators getting their original art back, as well as four notable deaths in the industry, Pacific Comics, Sol Brodsky, Don Newton and Phil Seuling. CBH Podcast ©Comic Book Historians. Support us at https://www.patreon.com/comicbookhistorians