Today on AirTalk, we're watching the CEOs of NPR and PBS as they testify before the DOGE committee in defense against the FCC's claims of political bias. We'll debrief after the hearing about what might be next for public media. U.S. Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth leaked detailed war plans in a group chat that included an editor from The Atlantic. The messages have since been released to the public, and we're left wondering: how did this happen? Billions of dollars have gone into preserving the natural beauty of Lake Tahoe, but how has the funding been used, and what are the results? We're joined by an author whose new book details and gives context to the history of National Public Radio.

• NPR and PBS CEOs testify before DOGE committee (00:17)

• Detailed U.S. war plans leaked in a group chat (34:32)

• Investigation into the billions of dollars that go into preserving Lake Tahoe (50:45)

• New book on the history of National Public Radio (1:16:30)