REFS NEED LOVE TOO

Changing the Game: The Renegade Lawyer Referee Ben Glass on Soccer's Culture Problem


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What happens when we normalize abuse toward the most vulnerable members of our sports community? David Gerson, host of Refs Need Love Too, joins attorney Ben Glass on the Renegade Lawyer podcast to tackle one of youth sports' most pervasive problems—referee abuse and its devastating impact on officiating retention.

This raw, revealing conversation explores the alarming statistics: we've lost over 30% of certified soccer referees since 2019, with 80% of new officials quitting within three years primarily due to sideline abuse. David shares powerful personal stories, including the moment his teenage son nearly walked away from officiating after being confronted by an aggressive adult player, highlighting the human cost behind these numbers.

The discussion takes an encouraging turn as David reveals his behind-the-scenes work developing US Soccer's comprehensive new referee abuse policies. These groundbreaking guidelines establish clear boundaries between emotional expression and unacceptable behavior, with meaningful consequences—including triple sanctions when directed at minor officials. Meanwhile, states like Virginia are implementing landmark legislation making even verbal threats against officials a class one misdemeanor.

Both David and Ben, with over 60 combined years of officiating experience, offer practical wisdom for creating safer environments. They explore the puzzling double standard where children are protected as players but subjected to abuse as referees, and share strategies for addressing dissent before it escalates. Their conversation illuminates a path forward where respect for officials enhances the game experience for everyone involved.

Whether you're a parent, coach, player, or official, this episode offers actionable insights into breaking the cycle of abuse and building a youth sports culture that prioritizes both competitive excellence and human dignity. Subscribe to Refs Need Love 2 for more behind-the-scenes perspectives on transforming sports culture from the referee's vantage point.

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