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Hello and welcome to CHAOSScast Community podcast, where we share use cases and experiences with measuring open source community health. Elevating conversations about metrics, analytics, and software from the Community Health Analytics Open Source Software, or short CHAOSS Project, to wherever you like to listen. Today, we’re having a revisit episode with a guest we’ve had on before. We’re so excited to welcome back Jono Bacon, a leading community and collaboration strategy consultant, author, and speaker, and previously led community at GitHub, Canonical, and XPRIZE. Our conversations today include a mix of revisiting some things we talked about in Jono’s previous episode, updates on what’s changed in the community industry and in his world, as well as some new things that are happening in Web3. Download this episode now to find out much more, and don’t forget to subscribe for free to this podcast on your favorite podcast app and share this podcast with your friends and colleagues!

[00:02:48] Jono gives us an introduction about who he is and what he does.

[00:04:22] We find out some key strategies that Jono’s been using lately to propel his personal career and development as a Community Manager.

[00:07:55] Lori wonders if anyone is seeing this move toward integrating and working with different tools as opposed to having everything centralized, and if this has to do with the onset of Web3. Jono tells us how he’s skeptical of the all-in-one community.

[00:10:20] Georg brings up how we need more diversity in the ecosystem of tooling and Jono shares his thoughts on this.

[00:13:14] Venia tells us about Grapevine communication.

[00:15:14] The cruise ship model of data structure is brought up and Venia wonders where Jono thinks that’s going to take us moving into the future of Web3.

[00:18:17] Georg asks Jono if he sees changes in communities and how communities work due to these new demands that are being put on them.

[00:22:35] Jono tells us what a Community Manager’s responsibility should be to the community by explaining it in three layers: Policy, Technology, and Influence.

[00:29:45] Lori expresses the importance of listening to the passionate people, and since community is a teachable profession, she asks, “Where does it go now?”

[00:34:26] Jono gives us his honest answer to the least understood aspects of being a Community Manager since a lot has changed over the last two years.

[00:38:16] Find out Jono’s opinion on how community manages metrics.

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Hello and welcome to CHAOSScast Community podcast, where we share use cases and experiences with measuring open source community health. Elevating conversations about metrics, analytics, and software from the Community Health Analytics Open Source Software, or short CHAOSS Project, to wherever you like to listen. Today’s episode is a shared podcast between Sustain and CHAOSS. We have six panelists to talk about maintaining open source and we’ll also do a quick update from a previous episode and talk about what has changed and what maintaining open source looks like today. The panelists we have are Georg Link, Richard Littauer, Dawn Foster, Willem Jiang, Amanda Casari, and Ben Nickolls. Download this episode now to find out much more, and don’t forget to subscribe for free to this podcast on your favorite podcast app and share this podcast with your friends and colleagues!

[00:01:19] The six panelists introduce themselves.

[00:04:45] Richard details more about what Sustain is, Georg and Dawn explain CHAOSS and what’s going on there, and Amanda shares what she likes about CHAOSS.

[00:13:56] Dawn talks about the kind of community members CHAOSS has, Willem tells us about the Asia community, and Ben shares his views on the Sustain community.

[00:20:04] Georg asks if there’s been any updates on the funding situation in open source and if anything has changed there and Ben updates us.

[00:24:14] When thinking about resources, who gets paid, how money flows, and how we identify when help is needed, Amanda wonders how that’s changed in the last few years in the CHAOSS community.

[00:26:34] Richard shares from his angle what he’s seen about what has changed in the past two years in open source.

[00:28:33] Ben shares his views on the supply chain conversation about who is making money in open source.

[00:30:36] Since security is such a hot topic, Georg asks if we’re prepared in all the open source projects to really focus on this topic or if we have to upskill everyone, and we hear Ben’s thoughts on this.

[00:32:27] Richard explains how you can get involved in Sustain happenings that are going on, and Georg and Dawn inform us about some projects, working groups, and other things going on with CHAOSS.

[00:40:42] Find out where you can get involved with Sustain and CHAOSS.

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Special Guests: Amanda Casari, Benjamin Nickolls, Richard Littauer, and Willem Jiang.

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Hello and welcome to CHAOSScast Community podcast, where we share use cases and experiences with measuring open source community health. Elevating conversations about metrics, analytics, and software from the Community Health Analytics Open Source Software, or short CHAOSS Project, to wherever you like to listen. We are super excited to have as our guest, Richard Millington, who’s the Founder of FeverBee and author of Build Your Community. Today, we’ll be talking with Richard about communities, metrics, and what FeverBee does for organizations. Download this episode now to find out much more, and don’t forget to subscribe for free to this podcast on your favorite podcast app and share this podcast with your friends and colleagues!

[00:01:31] Richard introduces himself, he tells us about FeverBee, and how he got into the field of communities.

[00:06:11] How did Richard move Seth and a lot of his clients into the headspace of being community first and what a community could do for his brands?

[00:12:29] Richard dives into the topic of convince and persuade.

[00:16:22] We hear Richard’s thoughts on how to set goals for community or for existing communities that are out there today.

[00:19:26] When you find what your goals are for engaging a community, Georg wonders how to do this authentically without overriding what everyone else is already doing in the community, and Richard tells us how they approach it.

[00:25:02] We learn from Richard the way to go about understanding what matters for your community and finding the right goals.

[00:29:10] When it comes to open source communities, Richard shares suggestions of where to begin when people are trying to figure out what goals to set.

[00:30:56] Georg asks Richard if he’s ever done a workshop in an asynchronous way over mailing lists or slack where you didn’t require everyone to be in the same room at the same time for the workshop.

[00:31:55] We hear about setting targets based upon prior data or data that already exists, and Richard explains a problem in plucking metrics from thin air.

[00:36:53] Find out where you can follow Richard on the internet.

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Hello and welcome to CHAOSScast Community podcast, where we share use cases and experiences with measuring open source community health. Elevating conversations about metrics, analytics, and software from the Community Health Analytics Open Source Software, or short CHAOSS Project, to wherever you like to listen. Venia is super excited about this episode because you may know our guests from around the community. Today, we have Brian Oblinger, Senior Vice President of New Products at Commsor, and Lori Goldman, Community Manager at ForgeRock. Our conversations touch on how Brian and Lori found themselves in community and their experiences with measuring community health over the years. We also learn about some start-ups in the community, what CMX has done in the community, where the community is going in a post 2022 world, and some projects Lori and Brian are working on. Download this episode now to find out much more, and don’t forget to subscribe for free to this podcast on your favorite podcast app and share this podcast with your friends and colleagues!

[00:01:11] Brian and Lori share their stories on how they found themselves in community and measuring community health.

[00:04:58] We hear about some start-ups such as Commsor, Orbit, and Common Room.

[00:06:24] Lori and Brian talk about their experiences with measuring community health over the years.

[00:10:26] Venia wonders how we’re supposed to bring businesses back into the discussion about measurement marketing, and Brian explains it’s about understanding who you’re talking to and understanding their language and Lori mentions monetizing it.

[00:13:05] Lori speaks about the conversation about metrics and the wrapping in of community and CMX.

[00:18:08] Venia explains her take on managing metrics, and Lori and Brian share some thoughts.

[00:20:06] We find out how this community measurement is going to look like in a post-2022, post pandemic, and the problems that need to be solved.

[00:24:23] Lori brings up the interconnection between community and developer relations and how do we work best with that function since it’s so important, and Brian and Venia share their thoughts.

[00:27:56] Find out what Lori and Brian are doing as far as projects in the next six months to a year with community metrics.

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Special Guests: Brian Oblinger and Lori Goldman.

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Hello and welcome to CHAOSScast Community podcast, where we share use cases and experiences with measuring open source community health. Elevating conversations about metrics, analytics, and software from the Community Health Analytics Open Source Software, or short CHAOSS Project, to wherever you like to listen. Today, our special guest is Matt Van Itallie, who’s the Founder and CEO of Sema, a software company focused on code quality. Today, we find out about Sema’s tools, one being an analytics tool to understand open source, the other one helps developers build a portfolio of their work, and we learn how these tools relate to the work CHAOSS is doing. Also, Matt goes in depth about “code is a craft,” using Sonar for Linting, and ScanCode, and some things he would like to make better in the future. Download this episode now to find out much more, and don’t forget to subscribe for free to this podcast on your favorite podcast app and share this podcast with your friends and colleagues!

[00:01:42] Matt tells us his background and what brought him to CHAOSS.

[00:03:17] We hear Matt’s thoughts on the various paradoxes and complexities when evaluating code quality in open source, Sean asks Matt if anyone has cataloged the available Linters, and we hear about an open source project called ScanCode.

[00:07:21] Sean brings up the language agnostic code quality analysis tool, and Matt explains how it works, what the benefits are, and some constraints that he’s discovered in his work.

[00:09:54] Georg wonders how detailed Matt gets looking at the process analysis.

[00:12:37] Matt talks about explaining quality measurement to executives and non-technical executives.

[00:15:19] Since security is always a concern, Sean tells us about a challenge they have in the Risk working group at CHAOSS with identifying various declared recognized risks, and Matt explains how this relates to the work he’s doing.

[00:21:10] Georg wonders if there’s anything Matt wants to make better in the future and if the CHAOSS Community can help him with it. He explains an automated tool to understand the health of the guild.

[00:26:40] Matt talks about a tool from Sema that makes it easier and faster to write code reviews and using ScanCode.

[00:29:33] Find out where you can follow Matt online.

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[00:19:29] “Code is a craft means that creators matter a ton because there’s so much institutional knowledge in their heads about how things fit together and the meaning of it. Crafts people create meaning that is incredibly hard to transfer.”

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Hello and welcome to CHAOSScast Community podcast, where we share use cases and experiences with measuring open source community health. Elevating conversations about metrics, analytics, and software from the Community Health Analytics Open Source Software, or short CHAOSS Project, to wherever you like to listen. Today, Venia, Don, and Sean are having a panel discussion about the juicy news with Google Analytics, the history of it, their experience with it over the years, and the future of metrics. Download this episode now to find out much more, and don’t forget to subscribe for free to this podcast on your favorite podcast app and share this podcast with your friends and colleagues!

[00:01:47] Don, Sean, and Venia share their experiences with Google Analytics.

[00:03:45] Venia announces the big news about Google Analytics and we hear about the history of Google Analytics.

[00:13:47] Sean asks if the folks who were invisible to the conventional Analytics become a prototype of what people have in terms of tools and power under the new Google, and Venia explains “dark data.”

[00:16:25] Don talks about the global privacy control you have to do for handling personal data in California and the California Detector.

[00:17:32] Venia talks about what happened in 2016 with GDPR.

[00:19:29] Where does Google Analytics new platform fit into this problem space?

[00:22:46] Sean asks if we are anthropomorphizing his smart fridge if it’s connected to the internet and if it now has a right to be forgotten, and Venia and Don respond.

[00:27:37] Don explains about how we put a lot of emphasis on privacy changes but arbitrary policy changes by big platforms also have a big impact, and we learn how much will be handled by JavaScript Frameworks and development tools down the road.

[00:30:54] Venia wonders how much of a nightmare this transition will be, and what it will look like for the business owner, the end user, and for Google.

[00:36:24] What are the implications for people who buy and sell these ads by the thousand and what are the implications for the consumer?

[00:40:30] We hear about a new group called the Private Advertising Technology Community Group and what they do.

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Google Sunsetting Universal Analytics in 2023

Europe’s Move Against Google Analytics Is Just the Beginning

UPDATE: CNIL decides EU-US data transfer to Google Analytics illegal

Website fined by German court for leaking visitor’s IP address via Google Fonts

State Laws Related to Digital Privacy

Problems Persist With Google’s Privacy Sandbox Proposals as Trials Open

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How Target Figured Out A Teen Girl Was Pregnant Before Her Father Did

Data Brokers: Last Week Tonight with John Oliver (HBO) YouTube

Next steps in privacy-preserving Telemetry with Prio-Mozilla Security Blog

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Ghostery

ClearURLs

Global Privacy Control

Implementing Global Privacy Control in Firefox

CCPA opt out, nerd edition (Don Marti Blog)

Cleaning up YouTube (Don Marti Blog)

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Private Advertising Technology Community Group

CPPA Regulations (Public rulemaking process for CPRA (next generation of CCPA)

Fair Competition on the Post-Cookie Web

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Hello and welcome to CHAOSScast Community podcast, where we share use cases and experiences with measuring open source community health. Elevating conversations about metrics, analytics, and software from the Community Health Analytics Open Source Software, or short CHAOSS Project, to wherever you like to listen. Today, we are excited to have as our guest, Hilary Carter, who is the Vice President of Research at the Linux Foundation where she leads the creation of decision-useful insights into the open source technologies and standards underpinning much of the digital infrastructure on which the global economy depends. Today’s discussion focuses on the Linux Foundation Research. Hilary goes in depth with the planning process on what she chooses to investigate, their process of surveys and collecting trace data, metrics, and some surprises she learned about research in the open source community. Download this episode now to find out much more, and don’t forget to subscribe for free to this podcast on your favorite podcast app and share this podcast with your friends and colleagues!

[00:02:09] Hilary tells us her background and how she got to be the VP of Research at the Linux Foundation.

[00:04:02] What is Hilary’s planning and scoping process to choose what she chooses to investigate?

[00:07:01] When Hilary talks about the open source paradigm and the framework built around it, we learn where she sees the community within that.

[00:08:35] Since Hilary has been in her role for a year, she explains some things she was surprised to learn about research in this area.

[00:10:59] Sophia wonders how Hilary has had to adapt her research processes in order to develop methodologies in this new format.

[00:16:00] Georg wonders how much Hilary leverages the LFX insights platform and how much other data does she collect about communities without having to incentivize people.

[00:20:02] Kate asks if there are areas Hilary would like to see more standard metrics evolve to make it easier to match things up and get insight.

[00:24:10] We learn how Hilary is creating research for specific users or personas.

[00:26:38] Sophia brings up a great question to Hilary about how we can coordinate as a community so we can collaborate and work more in tandem with each other.

[00:29:24] Hilary talks about establishing a working group to share ideas within the community.

[00:30:13] Find out where you can follow Hilary and her work online.

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Hello and welcome to CHAOSScast Community podcast, where we share use cases and experiences with measuring open source community health. Elevating conversations about metrics, analytics, and software from the Community Health Analytics Open Source Software, or short CHAOSS Project, to wherever you like to listen. On this episode we have joining us, Chenqi Shan, who’s an open source developer at Huawei Open Source management center. Today we have a great discussion about GrimoireLab, which is a powerful CHAOSS tool for gathering data, and we find out a multitude of dashboards that can be used to show metric models. Chenqi shares with us how she uses GrimoireLab and how her experience has been contributing to the GrimoireLab project. Daniel details the GrimoireLab repository Sigils, and the component Perceval, and we hear stories about different approaches and different problems that we’re trying to solve with GrimoireLab. Download this episode now to find out much more, and don’t forget to subscribe for free to this podcast on your favorite podcast app and share this podcast with your friends and colleagues!

[00:01:53] Daniel gives us a little history of Grimoire Lab, and Chenqi tells us how she uses GrimoireLab and the benefits it has for her organization and her analysis of open source software, health, sustainability, and openEuler.

[00:05:59] Sean asks Chenqi about what kinds of key information do the special interest groups get from GrimoireLab that help them understand the work that needs to be done or how things are going, and Chenqi also explains what she means by health.

[00:07:33] Chenqi tells us if she uses any other big metrics in their dashboards or in their setups besides the health for the response.

[00:08:32] With 90 special interest groups involved, we find out if there are less experienced or newer groups that look at different metrics than some of the more experienced special interest groups.

[00:10:05] Venia and Daniel talk about how different dashboards are useful to different projects at different levels or parts of their life cycle.

[00:14:10] Chenqi explains their metrics.

[00:16:02] We hear Chenqi’s thoughts on her experience contributing to the Grimoire Lab project.

[00:17:12] Chenqi shares some recommendations for developers that would like to help with GrimoireLab gitee or GrimoireLab.

[00:18:04] Venia, Daniel, and Sean share some important things about GrimoireLab and then Daniel tells us about the GrimoireLab repository Sigils.

[00:25:56] Chenqi tells us why they used OpenSearch instead of Elasticsearch on their project.

[00:27:32] Daniel explains if it’s common to have different platform dashboards or metric models that are presented to different projects or roles on a project in a larger organization or open source enterprise.

[00:32:00] Find out about Perceval, which is a very powerful component of GrimoireLab, and Venia talks about a case study she did.

[00:36:58] Looking forward towards the next year, Daniel talks about some of the key objectives happening in GrimoireLab in terms of new features, new functionality, and advances in technology and he shares a wish list of what he would like to see.

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Sean Goggins

Venia Logan

Daniel Izguierdo

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Chenqi Shan

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SustainOSS

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CHAOSS Project Twitter

CHAOSScast Podcast

[email protected]

Ford Foundation

Sean Goggins Twitter

Venia Logan Twitter

Daniel Izguierdo Twitter

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Huawei

openEuler

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GrimoireLab-gitee

Sigil

Generic Dashboards for GrimoireLab-Sigils

GrimoireLab Perceval-GitHub

CHAOSScast Podcast-Episode 21: Extending GrimoireLab projects with Ria and Venu

Special Guest: Chenqi Shan.

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Hello and welcome to CHAOSScast Community podcast, where we share use cases and experiences with measuring open source community health. Elevating conversations about metrics, analytics, and software from the Community Health Analytics Open Source Software, or short CHAOSS Project, to wherever you like to listen. On today’s episode, we have joining us as our guest, Dhruv Sachdev, who’s an undergraduate Computer Engineering student at Mumbai University and was a Google Summer of Code 2021 student for CHAOSS. Dhruv is here to talk about his path to open source and the project he did with the Google Summer of Code 2021. We hear about his experience managing his time as a student and working on this project, what projects he’s excited about doing in the near future, and he shares advice if you are new to open source or if you’re looking to explore the world of open source. Download this episode now to find out much more, and don’t forget to subscribe for free to this podcast on your favorite podcast app and share this podcast with your friends and colleagues!

[00:02:00] Dhruv tells us his path to open source, when he started working on an open source project, how he found out about it, and what he finds cool about CHAOSS.

[00:03:40] Sean wonders what it is about the measurement and analytics field that is so fascinating to Dhruv.

[00:06:28] We hear more about Dhruv’s project he did with the Google Summer of Code.

[00:10:34] Dhruv tells us what resources really helped him when he started with the Augur team to better understand the software components and more about how CHAOSS was structured.

[00:12:17] Sophia talks about a research article evaluating hackathons and how effective they are on open source projects, and Sean tells us about the benefits and impacts of Google Summer of Code.

[00:15:33] Dhruv explains his experience as a student, how he thought about time management, and volunteering his time in this space while still in school.

[00:21:00] Sean talks about Dhruv’s pieces that he did of Augur that looked at metrics and wonders why dependencies are so important right now, and Sophia explains why.

[00:25:45] Sean explains what happened in the OpenSSL security breach and talks about Heartbleed. Sophia brings up a previous episode with Avi Press, Founder of Scarf, which is an analytics tool, and explains about the vulnerabilities with tools.

[00:29:50] Find out what Dhruv is most excited about doing in the near future with projects.

[00:32:54] Dhruv shares advice if you are new to open source or students who are looking to explore the vast ecosystem of open source.

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Panelists:

Sean Goggins

Sophia Vargas

Guest:

Dhruv Sachdev

Sponsor:

SustainOSS

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CHAOSS

CHAOSS Project Twitter

CHAOSScast Podcast

[email protected]

Ford Foundation

Sean Goggins Twitter

Sophia Vargas Twitter

Dhruv Sachdev Website

Dhruv Sachdev Twitter

Dhruv Sachdev LinkedIn

Dhruv Sachdev project submission-Google Summer of Code 2021 for CHAOSS

Security Scorecards

CHAOSS Augur

CHAOSS Risk Metrics Working Group

CHAOSS Community Handbook

CHAOSScast Podcast-Episode 53: Gathering Open Source Usage Data with Avi Press

SwiftOnSecurity Twitter

Sam Stepanyan Twitter

MahaShivRatri 2022

Special Guest: Dhruv Sachdev.

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Hello and welcome to CHAOSScast Community podcast, where we share use cases and experiences with measuring open source community health. Elevating conversations about metrics, analytics, and software from the Community Health Analytics Open Source Software, or short CHAOSS Project, to wherever you like to listen. On today’s episode, we are talking about Diversity, Equity, & Inclusion Reflection, which is a project that we had at CHAOSS Community to look at our own practices and how we can make our community more welcoming and inclusive, and we were fortunate to receive a grant from the Ford Foundation to complete this work. Our DEI team that has been working on this is joining us to discuss the motivation for this journey, what they’ve learned, implemented, the metrics strategy, and what they are looking forward at into the future of where they can take this work next. Download this episode now to find out much more, and don’t forget to subscribe for free to this podcast on your favorite podcast app and share this podcast with your friends and colleagues!

[00:03:40] Some of the panelists share what their motivation was to embark on this journey.

[00:05:27] We hear some things the panelists have learned from looking at the CHAOSS Project and things they’ve been doing to understand what works and where can they improve.

[00:08:05] Elizabeth and Matt explain how the group got together and worked to arrive at their findings.

[00:10:34] We learn about some easy things they’ve learned and implemented.

[00:14:34] Sean dives into the metrics strategy and explains the three categories of metrics, and Matt explains the DEI Badging Program.

[00:19:21] The panelists share things they are looking at into the future of where can we take this work next?

[00:24:41] Find out where you can learn more if you’re interested in this kind of work they’re doing, as well as learn about new things that are coming up with this group.

Value Adds (Picks) of the week:

Panelists:

Georg Link

Sponsor:

SustainOSS

Links:

CHAOSS

CHAOSS Project Twitter

CHAOSScast Podcast

[email protected]

Ford Foundation

CHAOSS Blog Post-DEI Audit 2021

Georg Link Twitter

Kristi Progri Twitter

Selene Yang

Georgia Bullen Twitter

Matt Germonprez Twitter

Sean Goggins Twitter

Kafayah Lawal LinkedIn

Elizabeth Barron Twitter

Ruth Ikegah Twitter

CHAOSS Community- Participate

CHAOSS Community Slack

Algorithms on Strings by Maxime Crochemore, Christophe Hancart, Thierry Lecroq

Plant Grow Light

Cincinnati Bengals

How I Experienced Web Today

Special Guest: Georgia Bullen.

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