As teenagers wide-eyed to the world of Fat White Family and the notorious Queen's Head in Brixton, Charlie Steen and Shame did the honourable thing: dive heard first into everything. Still friends and still excited about making albums and touring, Charlie tells us about moving through south London in his twenties, living in the wahsing room and grifting at the Nepalese. Shame's excellent fourth album Cuthroat is out now. See Charlie's art at steenhub.com. Thanks to Elephant's Head, Camden.

Mentioned: King Krule, Steve Lamace, The Stooges, Eddy Current Suppression Ring, Alabama 3, Viagra Boys, Jimi Hendrix, Roxy Music, David Bowie

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