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Are U.S. retail investors too complacent about U.S. equities? They’re certainly less cautious than large global institutional investors who are moving some of their investments out of the U.S. stock and bond markets, according to a new survey by market research firm CoreData. The survey polled 132 institutional investors around the world — think large pension funds, sovereign wealth funds, banks, real estate investment trusts, and the like, as opposed to everyday retail investors like many Cheddar readers. The survey showed that 49% said the markets are too complacent, and 56% hold a bearish view on U.S. equity markets over the next three months. By comparison, 66% of American retail investors are bullish or neutral on U.S. stocks over the next six months, and only 33% are bearish. So: Who’s right? Cheddar’s BBTW editor Peter Green spoke with CoreData’s Mike Morley about what the survey means.
What’s the big takeaway from the report?Institutions outside of the U.S. are a lot more negative on the outlook for U.S. markets than U.S. investors are.
What is the big surprise here?The big surprise is how much these investors are making changes directly in response to American policy. The fact that so many have made tactical short-term changes is interesting, but even more interesting is how many have made or are making strategic long-term allocation changes. It speaks to the fact that this isn’t just a short term blip in the markets and policy, but a lot of agreement that tariff policies are going to create a situation with slower growth and higher inflation, and a lot of risk, when you think about longer-term issues like the debt situation in the U.S. These are challenges that looked like they were 20 years in the future, but that are coming forward in investors’ eyes because of erratic and volatile U.S. policy.
So what’s been keeping the U.S. equity markets so high so far?The reality is there’s just enough positivity from retail investors and from other corners of the market, which is holding up the prices at this point.
Your survey talks about institutional investors moving away from U.S. markets. How big is that move?These changes that we’re talking about are not huge percentage-wise in the portfolio. If their range for U.S.equities was 30% to 32%, maybe they’re shifting it down to 28% to 30%. These are huge sums of money, but they’re not totally reshaping the portfolio, and it’s not something that they’re doing overnight, they take some time.
Who wins out of all of this?Developed markets outside of the U.S. There is really strong sentiment around European equities, likewise for emerging markets. China is not looking so good. Investors based outside of the U.S. are saying that new U.S. policies are also accelerating a shift away from U.S. treasuries and the dollar, so that’s a pretty significant change. The beneficiaries of that are the Treasury alternatives like the German Bunds or Japanese bonds, and the dollar alternatives and other safe havens like gold, Swiss Francs, that sort of thing.
Does this mean the shine is off the U.S. apple?It’s definitely a situation where the U.S. looks relatively unattractive in comparison to these other markets. In the timeframe that we looked at, a year out, in terms of equity expectations, it’s not that the U.S. is looking horrible, it’s just that these other markets are looking much more attractive, so it’s this relative performance conversation where there’s some rebalancing going on.
Long-term, what does this mean for U.S. retail investors?I’m not a financial adviser, but it’s the classic advice of staying diversified and having diversified index exposure across lots of different facets of global markets. You don’t want to be over-exposed to the U.S.
—Peter S. Green
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TrumplandiaMeta’s artificial intelligence spending spree appears to be paying off with investors, who sent the company’s stock soaring after hours on Wednesday following a blowout quarterly earnings report.
The Menlo Park, California-based company easily beat Wall Street’s expectations for the second quarter, helped by higher advertising revenue and a growing user base on its flagship social media platforms. The money is helping to fund the company’s massive investments in AI development and hiring top talent at eye-popping compensation levels.
“Not only has Meta made demonstrable strides with AI, but it’s helping to future proof itself as a growth company, should its family of apps get affected by the current anti-trust case or changing social media sentiment,” said Forrester research director Mike Proulx.
Meta is facing an antitrust case that’s now awaiting a judge’s decision and could force the company to break off WhatsApp and Instagram, startups Meta bought more than a decade ago that have since grown into social media powerhouses.
The company earned $18.34 billion, or $7.14 per share, in the April-June period. That’s up 36% from $13.47 billion, or $5.16 per share, in the same period a year earlier.
Revenue jumped 22% to $47.52 billion from $39.07 billion.
Analysts expected Meta to earn $5.88 per share on revenue of $44.81 billion, according to a poll by FactSet.
Meta’s daily active user base on its apps — Facebook, Messenger, WhatsApp, Instagram and Threads — was 3.48 billion, up 6% year-over-year.
Meta said it expects costs to increase as it spends billions on infrastructure and luring highly compensated employees as it works on its AI ambitions. It’s forecasting 2025 expenses to be in the range of $114 billion to $118 billion, up 20% to 24% year-over-year.
In the latest demonstration of his AI enthusiasm, CEO Mark Zuckerberg on Wednesday posted a note detailing his views on “personal superintelligence” that he believes will “help humanity accelerate our pace of progress.” While he said that developing superintelligence is now “in sight,” he did not detail how this will be achieved or exactly what “superintelligence” means.
The abstract idea of “superintelligence” is what rival companies call artificial general intelligence, or AGI. It’s the latest pivot for a tech leader who in 2021 went all-in on the idea of the metaverse, changing the company’s name and investing billions into advancing virtual reality and related technology.
“Meta’s vision is to bring personal superintelligence to everyone. We believe in putting this power in people’s hands to direct it towards what they value in their own lives,” Zuckerberg wrote. “This is distinct from others in the industry who believe superintelligence should be directed centrally towards automating all valuable work, and then humanity will live on a dole of its output.”
Zuckerberg said in a conference call he believes AI glasses are going to be “the main way we integrate superintelligence.”
Last month, Meta invested $14.3 billion in AI company Scale and recruited its CEO Alexandr Wang to join a team developing “superintelligence.” The tech giant also cut a 20-year deal in early June to secure nuclear power to help meet surging demand for AI and other computing needs.
Meta ended the quarter with 75,945 employees, up 7% from a year earlier.
Meta’s shares rose $81.87, or 11.8% to $777.08 in after-hours trading — on track to reach a record high Thursday after the stock market opens.
Microsoft said Wednesday that annual revenue for its flagship Azure cloud computing platform has surpassed $75 billion, up 34% from a year earlier.
The Azure cloud business is a centerpiece of Microsoft’s efforts to shift its focus to artificial intelligence, but until Wednesday the company hadn’t disclosed how much money it makes.
The revelation came in the software giant’s end-of-year earnings report, one that also showed a 24% spike in the company’s quarterly profit that beat Wall Street expectations and pleased investors wary about Microsoft’s ongoing construction of costly new data centers needed to meet cloud computing and AI demand.
“We continue to scale our own data center capacity faster than any other competitor,” CEO Satya Nadella said on an investor call, boasting that the company now has more than 400 of the sprawling facilities across six continents.
Microsoft’s fiscal fourth-quarter profit was $34.3 billion, or $3.65 per share, beating analyst expectations for $3.37 per share.
It posted revenue of $76.4 billion in the April-June period, up 18% from last year. Analysts polled by FactSet Research had been looking for revenue of $73.86 billion.
Microsoft launched Azure more than a decade ago, but the service has increasingly become intertwined with its AI ambitions, as the company looks to sell its AI chatbot and other tools to big business customers that are also reliant on its core online services.
It still trails behind its lead competitor, Amazon Web Services, which reported $107.6 billion in revenue for its fiscal year that ended in December.
Building the infrastructure to power cloud and AI technology is expensive, and Microsoft has looked for savings elsewhere. It announced layoffs of about 15,000 workers this year even as its profits have soared.
Nadella told employees last week the layoffs were “weighing heavily” on him but also positioned them as an opportunity to reimagine the company’s mission for an AI era.
Still, the overall workforce numbers haven’t changed. The company said it employed 228,000 full-time employees as of June 30, the exact same amount it reported a year ago, though slightly more of them are now U.S.-based and fewer of them are in product support roles or consulting services.
Promises of a leaner approach have been welcomed on Wall Street, especially as Microsoft and other tech giants are trying to justify huge amounts of capital spending to pay for the data centers, chips and other components required to power AI technology.
Google said after releasing its earnings last week it would raise its budget for capital expenditures by an additional $10 billion to $85 billion. Microsoft’s chief financial officer, Amy Hood, said she expects capital spending for the July-September quarter to be $30 billion.
Microsoft didn’t disclose Wednesday to what extent sweeping U.S. tariffs are affecting its revenue, but its annual report lists tariffs among a number of risks the company faces.
“Increased geopolitical instabilities and changing U.S. administration priorities create an unpredictable trade landscape,” the company said. It also said the “volatility of U.S. tariffs has triggered economic uncertainty and could impact cloud and devices supply chain cost competitiveness.”
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