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What the heck, Wall Street? Was there a tech sell-off this week? Perhaps?! Who knows?!
Through Thursday afternoon, some tech shares had dropped, with the Magnificent Seven tech stocks down a collective 6%, the Nasdaq down 4% and the S&P 500 down 2%. But the Dow was up 1%, and given the volatility of all markets these days, trading on everything from the price of oil to the whims of president Trump, it’s no surprise. Amazon dropped 4.75% on Monday. Tesla fell 5.8% on Tuesday. Apple (see our story on the company, below) dropped more than 5% on Thursday. To make sense of what’s going on in the markets, BBTW columnist Peter Green spoke with Jim Cagnina, Senior Market Strategist at NinjaTrader Live, a daily, expert-led livestream and educational platform designed for futures traders.
Why such a big selloff in tech stocks?Markets generally do not respond well to uncertainty, and right now there’s plenty of it. Geopolitical tensions, lingering inflation concerns, and their impact on interest rate expectations, and end-of-quarter portfolio reshuffling all hit at once in this particular situation. Combined with the fact that tech stocks and AI names have been sitting right around all-time highs for months; you’ve got a recipe for “profit-taking.”
How far down is the selloff likely to go?According to many pros out there, we haven’t even hit what traders consider the first real test level yet. Using a standard technical measure from the industry called Fibonacci retracement, neither the Nasdaq nor the S&P 500 has pulled back from their recent run-up. Until we see deeper levels tested, this still looks more like a pause than a full collapse.
Was this week’s pullback more of a healthy correction or the start of a broader shift in sentiment?Only time will tell. The term “correction” can be somewhat misleading because it implies that prices were somehow “incorrect” beforehand, but from a technical standpoint, the recent decline remains relatively modest.
Is it fundamentals — or is AI just getting ahead of itself?From where I sit everyday, I can confidently say it’s both. The underlying demand for AI infrastructure is real, so components such as copper, data centers, and energy remain critical components in power generation. Those needs aren’t going away any time soon. However, the stock prices of AI-adjacent companies have been running far ahead of the actual revenue those companies are producing, and that gap is what makes investors nervous.
People are saying there’s no evidence companies actually want to use all that AI compute. Is that why it feels like a bubble?That’s the core tension right now because the infrastructure buildout is massive, but the proof that everyday businesses are adopting and paying for AI tools at scale just isn’t in front of us yet. When you’re spending trillions on capacity before the customers show up, that’s where bubble talk starts.
(This interview has been edited for clarity and condensed)
—Peter S. Green
Big Businesses mentioned this week Brexit, What Was it Good For? Absolutely Nothing?Ten years ago this week, the United Kingdom voted to leave the European Union and its frictionless, tariff-free single market of 430 million people. Brexit has since turned into a drag on the U.K. economy, and the reasons Brits voted for it are a lot like why Americans voted for Trump and the MAGA movement: The sense that taking back their sovereignty, and sealing their borders would somehow restore high-paying jobs to ordinary citizens. It hasn’t worked out, so far, in either place.
To understand what Brexit could teach the U.S., BBTW columnist Peter Green spoke with former Irish central bank governor Patrick Honohan, now with the Peterson Institute for International Economics, a non-partisan policy center in Washington. (This interview has been edited for clarity and slightly condensed).
Ten years on from the Brexit vote, and a year and a bit from the Trump tariffs, both Britain and the U.S. seem to have trapped themselves into a low-growth, high-inflation scenario while somehow thinking the world needed them more than they needed the world. What are the parallels?PH: For me the economics policy parallels are not all that close, but there are parallels in the way politics has evolved in both the U.S. and Britain, with populist/nativist narratives becoming dominant. Brexit introduced significant trading barriers between the U.K. and the E.U. and Trump’s tariffs have increased trading barriers between the U.S. and the rest of the World. However, the Brexit motivation was to “take back control” over domestic policy: Brexiteers imagined that they could improve and increase trading with the rest of the world thanks to a supposed ability to reduce onerous E.U. regulation of industry. Any gain on this front (and there has not yet been much deregulation in Britain) has been more than offset by the tariff and especially the administrative barriers to British exports to Europe.
Can the effect be measured?It’s hard to get a reliable precise estimate of the quantitative impact on the British economy, but few experts would contest a figure of minus 5 percent as the impact of Brexit on the U.K. economy by now. This is in line with the more credible estimates that were made by economists pre-Brexit. And future growth is also likely to be slower than it would have been without Brexit.
One parallel with the U.S. is on migration. Despite immigration from the rest of the EU having been one of the factors leading to a support of the Brexit proposal from nativists, the post Brexit period has seen a massive surge in net immigration, as there was a relaxation of the immigration rules for those coming from other countries. The [current] immigration slowdown reflects nativism in action and will, of course, have an adverse effect on growth in future years in both the U.S. and the U.K.
What lessons should the U.S. have absorbed from Brexit and its economic fallout? What might have been different had those lessons been absorbed?[The] biggest impact of the Brexit debate and outcome was the political polarization that it both reflected and exacerbated. Centrist politicians in the U.S. could have seen this (also from the election leading to Trump 1) and worked to seriously address the concerns of the “left behind”. Instead they continued to treat them as deplorables.
What story do the numbers tell?As mentioned, the GDP impact of Brexit is serious but not catastrophic. Catastrophist forecasters who anticipated a financial meltdown were proved wrong. But the deteriorating fiscal situation has made bond markets jumpy in the UK (as witness the mini-crisis that brought down Liz Truss’s government in 2022.) This could increasingly become a risk for the U.S. the way the Federal debt is growing.
Canada and the E.U. were our biggest trading partners in the U.S. — That’s in jeopardy (in fact Canada still has a massive surplus with the U.S.). What can or should we do now about it?This one is easy. Stop imposing tariffs and stop insulting these trading partners, just as the Labour Party in the UK are gradually rebuilding relations with the E.U., potentially rejoining the single market in a limited way before too long.
What effect has the Iran war had on all this?It certainly worsens the environment for U.K. policy makers, especially given their high indebtedness. For the U.S. it’s not as bad, despite their high indebtedness, given the degree to which the U.S. is an energy exporter.
Stepping back for the big picture, what is it that the U.S. policymakers don’t understand?International collaboration based on the predictable application of trade law offers the best growth opportunities—not only for middle-size countries like the U.K., but also for the U.S.
So where do we go from here, and what happens if we don’t mend our ways?I’ll pass on this one, if you don’t mind.
(This interview has been edited for clarity and condensed)
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