Chloé is the founder of Theory of Enchantment, an organisation that teaches schools & companies antiracism inspired by Dr. Martin Luther King, Maya Angelou & pop culture.

We discuss how compassion can be profitable, the similarities between the works of Beyoncé & Jordan Peterson, what Black Lives Matter got right and wrong, daily meditation, how to master Twitter, and why Robin DiAngelo’s “White Fragility” & Ibram X. Kendi’s “Antiracist Baby” books are terribly counter productive and only help create more racism.

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