It's the simple story of a letterer-turned-cartoonist, who conquered the world of children's entertainment with the ongoing Ordinary People Change the World book series and the associated Xavier Riddle and the Secret Museum cartoon on PBS. But how did Chris Eliopoulos climb this mountain, you ask? Well, listen to the episode. But if you want the Cliff's Notes version: he started out as a highly successful and prolific letterer and font designer, who among other things, hand-lettered the first 100 issues of Savage Dragon (past guest Erik Larsen is a friend). Chris was bit by the cartooning bug on that same title, where he introduced Desperate Times as a backup feature. After a bigger stint on Marvel's Franklin Richards: Son of a Genius (and the Misery Loves Sherman web comic), he hooked up with writer Brad Meltzer for the aforementioned kids' book series, which takes a heroic look at historical and contemporary real-life figures. And then, just for fun, the pair created the Xavier Riddle show, where the main character interacts with figures from the books.

The newest books in the series, which takes a turn into the fictional, are I am Superman and I am Batman, which drop on September 27. Go get 'em!

You can follow Chris on all the socials: @chriseliopoulos.

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