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What is more sterilizing and depersonalizing than a simple pill? Sadly, in a post-Dobbs world, the abortion pill as been used to perpetuate the slaughter of children in states that have supposedly strict restrictions on the practice. Read as Senator Dusty Deevers explains how the Pro-life movement has been unable to answer the question of “abortion pills.”

Resources to Click

• “Equal Protection or Bust: Why Abolitionists Have the Only Answer to the Abortion Pill Crisis” – Dusty Deevers
• “Abortion Trends Before and After Dobbs” – Karen Diep, Bryana Castillo Sanchez, Usha Ranji, and Alina Salganicoff
• “LifeNews Lies” – Foundation to Abolish Abortion
• Students for Life Action X Post
• “Babies Unprotected: An Analysis of Self-Induced Abortion Numbers in States with “Bans”” – Foundation to Abolish Abortion
• ABORTION is Still Legal in All 50 States – Abolitionists Rising
• EPIC Speech at Oklahoma Capitol by Abolitionist Pastor Dusty Deevers – Abolitionists Rising
• “Pro-Life Texas State Rep. Jeff Leach Delivers Death Sentence to 110,000 Preborn Human Beings” – James Silberman
• “An Open Letter to State Lawmakers from America’s Leading Pro-Life Organizations”
• Oklahoma | SB 456 | Judiciary Committee Hearing (2025) – Foundation to Abolish Abortion
• Theme of the Month: Abolishing Abortion, Advocating for Life
• Give to Support the Work

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Many pro-life organizations are failing in their mission to save babies. But why? Ben Zeisloft sees not only a problem with the execution of pro-life bills and strategies, but understands them to be anemic half measures. Read on as Ben presents a case for abortion abolitionism as the answer to our nation’s abortion epidemic.

Resources to Click

• “A Case for Abolitionism: The Only Way to End Abortion in America” – Ben Zeisloft
• “How Pro-Life Leaders Betray the One Truth They Can’t Afford to Compromise” – Ben Zeisloft
• “How the ERLC Works Against Ending Abortion” – Ben Zeisloft
• #WeCount Report, April 2022 to June 2025
• “An Open Letter to State Lawmakers from America’s Leading Pro-Life Organizations”
• “Biblical Principles on Equal Protection of the Laws for Preborn Children” – Foundation to Abolish Abortion
• “Texas Pro-Life Bill Fails to Adequately Address Self-Induced Abortion Epidemic” – Bradley Pierce
• “A Case for Abortion Incrementalism” – David Closson
• Theme of the Month: Abolishing Abortion, Advocating for Life
• Give to Support the Work

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Listen in as David Schrock & Stephen Wellum interview David Closson on his COA Longform Essay "A Case for Abortion Incrementalism"

Timestamps

• 00:30 – Intro
• 04:30 – How Did David Closson Become Impassioned about the Issue of Abortion?
• 06:40 – What Should People Take Away from David Closson’s Book?
• 09:00 – What Did Francis Schaeffer Argue For? Why Was No One Else Arguing Against Abortion?
• 12:36 – Anything to Be Encouraged or Discouraged By in Recent Years?
• 16:53 – The Differences Between Abolitionism and Incrementalism
• 19:00 – Is There a Way These Movements Can Work Together?
• 22:50 – Bill HR3755 and Abolitionists
• 25:50 – Are Incremental Bills More Effective?
• 27:47 – Is It Necessary for Pro-Life Advocates to Oppose Abolitionist Bills?
• 30:20 – Are Pro-Life Advocates Against Equal Protection Under the Law?
• 33:00 – The Different Roles of the Three Branches of Government
• 37:11 – Different Strategies Available to Us
• 40:20 – The Need for Cultural Renewal
• 45:05 – Has There Been Any Movement Towards an Abolitionist Bill in Texas?
• 48:38 – What Would Be Effective Against Chemical Abortions?
• 51:28 – An Area Where Abolitionists & Incrementalists Could Unite
• 52:35 – Are Pastors Being Trained on the Doctrine of Humanity?
• 55:43 – Are There Particular Places in Culture Where Christians Should Be Involved?
• 1:00:00 – The Responsibility Our Churches Have Toward This Issue
• 1:02:05 – Final Thoughts & David Closson’s Prayer
• 1:04:36 – Outro

Resources to Click

• “A Case for Abortion Incrementallism” – David Closson
• “Abortion in America After the Fall of Roe: Important Advances and Remaining Challenges” – David Closson
• “We are Abolitionists” – Free the States
• “Immediate, Not Gradual Abolition of Abortion” – James Silberman
• “Abolitionist Perspective on the Texas Heartbeat Bill: Three Quick Observations” – James Silberman
• Abolition vs Incrementalism: A Panel Discussion – The Danbury Institute
• “A National Survey of Churchgoing Americans: Social Issues and Worldview” – Center for Biblical Worldview
• “Planned Parenthood closes Rolla, MO facility, will continue telehealth” – Nancy Flanders
• “Planned Parenthood closes 20 clinics after Medicaid cuts, warns of grim future” – Praveena Somasundaram
• “Two New Studies Provide Broadest Evidence to Date of Unequal Impacts of Abortion Bans” – Blomberg School
• “How Many Abortions are Occurring in America Post-Dobbs?” – Mia Steupert
• Theme of the Month: Abolishing Abortion, Advocating for Life
• Give to Support the Work

Books to Read

• Life After Roe: Equipping Christians in the Fight for Life Today – David Closson

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Virtually all concrete and measurable gains against the abortion industry since the overturning of Roe v. Wade in 2022 have been through incremental strategies, while abolitionism has yet to result in the passage of a single law.

Resources to Click

• “A Case for Abortion Incrementallism” – David Closson
• “Abortion in America After the Fall of Roe: Important Advances and Remaining Challenges” – David Closson
• “We are Abolitionists” – Free the States
• “Immediate, Not Gradual Abolition of Abortion” – James Silberman
• “Abolitionist Perspective on the Texas Heartbeat Bill: Three Quick Observations” – James Silberman
• Abolition vs Incrementalism: A Panel Discussion – The Danbury Institute
• “A National Survey of Churchgoing Americans: Social Issues and Worldview” – Center for Biblical Worldview
• “Planned Parenthood closes Rolla, MO facility, will continue telehealth” – Nancy Flanders
• “Planned Parenthood closes 20 clinics after Medicaid cuts, warns of grim future” – Praveena Somasundaram
• “Two New Studies Provide Broadest Evidence to Date of Unequal Impacts of Abortion Bans” – Blomberg School
• “How Many Abortions are Occurring in America Post-Dobbs?” – Mia Steupert
• Theme of the Month: Abolishing Abortion, Advocating for Life
• Give to Support the Work

Books to Read

• Life After Roe: Equipping Christians in the Fight for Life Today – David Closson

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Listen in as the Editorial Board for Christ Over All reviews the year of 2025 and looks forward to what's coming in 2026.

Timestamps

• 00:17 – Intro
• 02:05 – Favorite Theme Cover of the Year
• 10:40 – Notable COA Articles Throughout the Year
• 24:22 – Why COA Publishes the Articles That They Do
• 30:58 – The Cross in the Old Testament
• 34:34 – The Paterfamilias
• 36:56 – The Nicene Creed
• 41:07 – One Gospel, Four Witnesses
• 41:50 – Get to Work: Grasping the Doctrine of Vocation
• 44:17 – Essential, Not Optional: Retrieving Biblical Theology
• 48:06 – Do the Reading: Selections in Political Theology
• 52:06 – Christmas Buffet
• 55:35 – Where COA is Going in 2026
• 1:05:55 – Closing Thoughts & Outro

 Resources to Click

• COA Themes Page
• “When Women in: Recognizing the Subtleties of Feminine Vice” – Abigail Dodds
• “The Dangerous Secret Your Young Men Are Keeping: Neo-Nazi Thought Has Entered the Church” – Will Spencer
• “Encore: Yuval Harari: Getting to Know the Enemy (of Humanity)” – Greg Scott
• “Herbert Marcuse and the Reality of Sin” – Brad Green
• “Ten Words about Words: Getting a Grip on Godly Speech” – David Schrock
• “We Can’t Replace Charlie Kirk, But We Can Honor His Legacy: Five Ways to Amplify Truth, Freedom, and the American Way” – Colin Smothers & David Schrock
• “The Turning Point of a Generation: Remembering Charlie Kirk” – Scott Polender
• “A North Star for Our Generation: A Tribute to Voddie Baucham” – David Schrock & Trent Hunter
• “A Personal Tribute to John MacArthur (1939-2025)” – Ardel Caneday
• “Mark 13 is Not About Jesus’s Second Coming” – Trent Hunter
• “Vocation Politics: The Discourses of Pierre de La Place” – Timon Cline
• “Law is King: How the Bible Shapes Our View of Law & Civil Government” – Levi Secord
• Theme of the Month: Christmas Buffet
• Give to Support the Work

Books to Read

• What is Critical Theory?: A Concise Christian Analysis – Bradley G. Green
• Servant Not Savior: An Introduction to the Bible’s Teaching about Civil Government – Levi Secord

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Listen in as David Schrock & Stephen Wellum interview Alex Kocman on his COA Longform Essay "Was Jesus a Refugee? And Why It Matters for Immigration"

Timestamps

• 00:30 – Intro
• 04:50 – Alex’s Role in ABWE & Christmas Teaching
• 07:37 – What is a Refugee?
• 09:22 – How Do We Seek to Correctly Interpret Scripture?
• 11:20 – Refugees and Migration
• 15:10 – What Does Scripture Say in Regards to the Refugee, Sojourner, etc.?
• 18:00 – What Makes it Difficult to Think in Categories?
• 21:25 – Thinking About How These Things Affect Nationhood
• 25:52 – What Key Things Should We See from Matthew 2?
• 29:39 – What is the Main Emphasis of the Gospel of Matthew?
• 33:00 – What are the Dissimilarities Between Immigrant and Refugee?
• 36:57 – What are the Church’s and State’s Responsibilities Towards These People?
• 43:40 – Dr. Wellum’s Perspective on Immigration
• 50:26 – The Order Amoris
• 56:14 – Final Thoughts
• 57:23 – Outro

Resources to Click

• “Was Jesus a Refugee? And Why It Matters for the Immigration Issue” – Alex Kocman
• “Christian Nationalism Misconceptions with David Schrock & Steve Wellum” – The Missions Podcast
• “Jesus Was a Refugee” – He Gets Us
• “Yes, Jesus Was a Refugee” – Russell Moore
• “Jesus Was a Refugee and an Immigrant” – Lindsay Popperson
• “Jesus Was a Refugee” – Salt
• “Pastor Defends Illegal Alien by Saying the Bible is about “God saving us through immigration”” – Not the Bee
• “U.S. Code, Title 8, Aliens and Nationality ẞ1101(a)(42)” – Legal Information Institute
• “Refugees: 2024” – Amanda Yap, U.S. Dept. of Homeland Security
• “Desecrations, threats, and silence: anti-Christian violence grips France” – Gavin Mortimer
• “Arson Attacks on Christian Churches Rise to Record High in Germany” – Kurt Zindulka
• “Some migrant groups are ‘disproportionately criminal’ due to cultural factors, claims renowned Swiss forensic psychiatrist” – Thomas Brooke
• “Dublin protestors clash with police, burn vehicle after migrant accused of sexually assaulting Irish girl” – Michael Dorgan
• “Police accused of covering up alleged asylum seeker child rape for fear of ‘Inflaming community tensions’” – Kurt Zindulka
• “British Parliament rejects inquiry in the ongoing pedophile rape-gang scandal (by a wide majority)” – Edward Teach
• Theme of the Month: Christmas Buffet
• Give to Support the Work

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Listen in as David Schrock and Stephen Wellum interview Levi Secord on his COA Longform Essay: "Law is King: How the BIble Shapes Our View of Law & Civil Government"

Timestamps

• 00:30 – Intro
• 03:38 – The Background Behind Servant Not Savior
• 05:11 – What are Some Things that Need to be On Our Radar as We Discuss This Subject?
• 08:15 – Walking Us Through the History from the King to the Law
• 10:27 – The Place of Natural Law
• 13:15 – Where in the Bible Do We Encounter Rutherford’s Ideas?
• 15:49 – Nations Making Covenants
• 21:00 – What is the Responsibility of Christians to Remind the Government of Their Role Before God?
• 22:57 – Who’s Role is it to Preach Before the Government?
• 29:00 – Political Theology is not Just from the Old Testament
• 31:32 – How Should We Read the OT Law to the King and Apply It Today?
• 36:50 – How Does Progressive Covenantalism Apply the Law?
• 40:22 – The Principle of General Equity
• 42:03 – What Can Nations Learn from Israel? From the Church?
• 47:20 – Good Government is the Exception to the Rule
• 51:25 – The Case for Bringing the Bible to the Public Square
• 54:50 – Natural Law is Not Devoid of Special Revelation
• 56:10 – Levi Secord’s Final Encouragements
• 57:40 – Outro

Resources to Click

• “Law is King: How the Bible Shapes Our View of Law & Civil Government” – Levi Secord
• 136: Political Islam – Just Thinking Podcast
• 2026 National Founders Conference: Make Disciples
• Theme of the Month: Christmas Buffet
• Give to Support the Work

Books to Read

• Servant Not Savior: An Introduction to the Bible’s Teaching about Civil Government – Levi Secord
• Defending the Declaration: How the Bible and Christianity Influenced the Writing of the Declaration of Independence – Gary Amos
• A Christian Manifesto – Francis Schaeffer
• How Should We Then Live? – Francis Schaeffer
• He Is There and He Is Not Silent – Francis Schaeffer
• Lex Rex: The Law is King – Samuel Rutherford
• The Origins of American Constitutionalism – Donald Lutz
• Colossians and Philemon (ZECotNT) – David W. Pao
• The Gospel of Matthew (NICNT) – R.T. France
• The Mission of God: A Manifesto of Hope for Society – Joseph Boot
• The Emergence of Liberty in the Modern World – Douglas F. Kelly
• Dominion – Tom Holland
• The Book that Made Your World: How the Bible Created the Soul of Western Civilization – Vishal Mangalwadi
• Mere Christendom – Douglas Wilson

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In an effort to steer well-meaning Christians’ sympathies, some leaders in the church have cited the life of our Lord as evidence for their progressive political agenda. But are they getting their facts straight? Read as Alex Kocman dispels the emotional trump-card, “Jesus was a refugee.”

Resources to Click

• “Was Jesus a Refugee? And Why It Matters for the Immigration Issue” – Alex Kocman
• “Jesus Was a Refugee” – He Gets Us
• “Yes, Jesus Was a Refugee” – Russell Moore
• “Jesus Was a Refugee and an Immigrant” – Lindsay Popperson
• “Jesus Was a Refugee” – Salt
• “Pastor Defends Illegal Alien by Saying the Bible is about “God saving us through immigration”” – Not the Bee
• “U.S. Code, Title 8, Aliens and Nationality ẞ1101(a)(42)” – Legal Information Institute
• “Refugees: 2024” – Amanda Yap, U.S. Dept. of Homeland Security
• “Desecrations, threats, and silence: anti-Christian violence grips France” – Gavin Mortimer
• “Arson Attacks on Christian Churches Rise to Record High in Germany” – Kurt Zindulka
• “Some migrant groups are ‘disproportionately criminal’ due to cultural factors, claims renowned Swiss forensic psychiatrist” – Thomas Brooke
• “Dublin protestors clash with police, burn vehice after migrant accused of sexually assaulting Irish girl” – Michael Dorgan
• “Police accused of covering up alleged asylum seeker child rape for fear of ‘Inflaming community tensions’” – Kurt Zindulka
• “British Parliament rejects inquiry in the ongoing pedophile rape-gang scandal (by a wide majority)” – Edward Teach
• Theme of the Month: Christmas Buffet
• Give to Support the Work

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Deuteronomy 17 shows that kings stand under God’s law. This article explores how rulers rise to power, why they must obey the law, and whether these truths apply beyond Israel.

Resources to Click

• “Law is King: How the Bible Shapes Our View of Law & Civil Government” – Levi Secord
• Theme of the Month: Christmas Buffet
• Give to Support the Work

 Books to Read

• Servant Not Savior: An Introduction to the Bible’s Teaching about Civil Government – Levi Secord
• Defending the Declaration: How the Bible and Christianity Influenced the Writing of the Declaration of Independence – Gary Amos
• A Christian Manifesto – Francis Schaeffer
• How Should We Then Live? – Francis Schaeffer
• He Is There and He Is Not Silent – Francis Schaeffer
• Lex Rex: The Law is King – Samuel Rutherford
• The Origins of American Constitutionalism – Donald Lutz
• Colossians and Philemon (ZECotNT) – David W. Pao
• The Gospel of Matthew (NICNT) – R.T. France
• The Mission of God: A Manifesto of Hope for Society – Joseph Boot

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Listen in as David Schrock & Stephen Wellum interview Marc Minter on his Longform essay, "Liberty Not Separation: The Historic Development of Baptist Perspectives on Church and State"

Timestamps

• 00:48 – Intro
• 05:52 – Marc Minter and His Academic Aspirations
• 10:30 – The State of Political Theology in the SBC
• 14:48 – Influences on Political Theology
• 19:00 – The Significance of Everson v. Board of Education 1947
• 21:42 – How This Case Shaped Subsequent Generations’ Worldviews
• 24:27 – Jefferson’s Letter to the Danbury Baptists
• 30:10 – How Much Did Jefferson’s Views Change Between 1776-1802?
• 33:37 – The Distinction Between Reformation and Enlightment Traditions
• 37:55 – The Two Notions of the Term ‘Separation’
• 43:05 – Have We Adopted an Anabaptist Tradition of Church & State?
• 45:47 – E.Y. Mullins’ Views on the State
• 49:10 – Mullins’ Interjection into the Baptist Faith & Message
• 58:48 – What Should Pastors Do In Light of All This?
• 1:04:24 – Readings for Baptist Political Theology
• 1:06:10 – Outro

Resources to Click

• “Liberty, Not Separation: The Historic Development of Baptist Perspectives on Church and State” – Marc Minter
• “Views of Individuals in Southern Baptist Congregations on Baptist Political Theology” – Lifeway Research
• “The Impotence of Secular Conservatism” – R. Albert Mohler Jr.
• Comparison Chart of the Baptist Faith and Message
• Theme of the Month: Do the Reading: Selections in Political Theology
• Give to Support the Work

Books to Read

• Ecclesiology: A Study of the Churches – Edwin Charles Dargan
• Baptist Political Theology – eds. Thomas Kidd, Paul Miller, & Andrew T. Walker
• Thomas Jefferson and the Wall of Separation Between Church and State – Daniel Dreisbach
• Agreeing to Disagree: How the Establishment Clause Protects Religious Diversity and Freedom of Conscience – Nathan S. Chapman and Michael W. McConnell
• Separation of Church and State – Philip Hamburger
• More Than Just a Name: Preserving Our Baptist Identity – Stan Norman
• The Axioms of Religion: A New Interpretation of the Baptist Faith – E.Y. Mullins
• The Baptist Story: From English Sect to Global Movement – Anthony L. Chute, Nathan A. Finn, & Michael A.G. Haykin
• Demanding Liberty: An Untold Story of American Religious Liberty – Brandon J. O’Brien
• Let Men Be Free: Baptist Politics in the Early United States (1776-1835) – Obbie Tyler Todd
• Baptist Confessions, Covenants, and Catechisms – John A. Broadus, ed. Timothy George
• Baptist Theology: A Four-Century Study – James Leo Garrett
• Baptist Confessions of Faith – William L. Lumpkin
• Christianity & Liberalism – J. Gresham Machen
• Uneasy in Babylon: Southern Baptist Conservatives and American Culture – Barry Hankins