Peyton Jones sits down with theologian, historian, and mission scholar Dr. Howard Snyder for a wide-ranging conversation on the gospel, the Kingdom of God, and what it truly means to follow Jesus in a fractured world. Drawing from his newest and most ambitious work, Consider the Lilies: How Jesus Saves People and the Land, Snyder challenges the Church to recover a fuller, more biblical vision of salvation—one that includes not only people, but creation itself.

In this episode, Dr. Snyder explains why much of modern theology has become “too small,” how Scripture reveals God’s covenant not only with humanity but with the land, and why Jesus’ mission cannot be reduced to escaping the world rather than renewing it. The conversation explores discipleship, church planting, justice, stewardship, culture, and why the Church must be prepared to speak faithfully into the decades ahead.

For church planters, pastors, and leaders wrestling with the divide between the spiritual and the tangible, this episode offers a compelling framework for understanding the Kingdom of God as both deeply biblical and urgently relevant for our time.

Resources and Links Mentioned in this Episode:

• Reliant Mission: reliant.org/cpp
• NewBreed Training

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Joshua Brown—known as the Pressure Washing Pastor—joins Peyton Jones and Pete Mitchell for one of the most compelling conversations the Church Planter Podcast has had in a long time. From a traumatic childhood and growing up without a father, to burnout in vocational ministry, to building a multi-million-dollar pressure washing business as a platform for disciple-making, Joshua shares a raw, redemptive story of identity, calling, and obedience.

In this episode, Joshua unpacks how marketplace ministry became a powerful context for evangelism, discipleship, and leadership development—training young people, forming character before competency, and multiplying leaders outside the walls of the church. The conversation explores co-vocational ministry, service-based businesses, and why pressure washing (of all things) has become a surprisingly effective tool for mission.

If you’re a church planter wrestling with sustainability, burnout, or how to mobilize disciples beyond Sunday services, this episode will stretch your imagination and challenge your assumptions about what ministry can look like today.

Resources and Links Mentioned in this Episode:

• Pressure Washing Pastor
• Reliant Mission: reliant.org/cpp
• NewBreed Training

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People leave church plants...and it’s not always a bad thing. In this honest conversation, Peyton Jones and Pete Mitchell talk about why people leave, how leaders often take it personally, and why a healthy send-off matters more than trying to hold people tightly. Along the way, they address the dangers of platform-first leadership, social media posturing, and why character (not notoriety) is what sustains long-term gospel impact.

Resources and Links Mentioned in this Episode:

• Reliant Mission: reliant.org/cpp
• NewBreed Training

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In this candid conversation, Peyton Jones and Pete Mitchell talk honestly about the emotional and spiritual weight of church planting—the burnout, the doubts, the financial strain, and the moments when you wonder why you ever said yes. Drawing from years of experience, they reflect on why so many church planters quit, why calling matters more than strategy, and how disciple-making offers a hopeful path forward in a season when church planting feels increasingly difficult.

The episode also includes a powerful, real-time story of God’s provision as Peyton shares how prayer, fasting, wise counsel, and unexpected generosity led to a breakthrough for their church’s next gathering space. It’s a reminder that while church planting is rarely easy, God is still active, still guiding, and still opening doors for those willing to trust Him.

If you’re a church planter feeling tired, discouraged, or unsure whether the sacrifice is worth it, this episode offers both realism and renewed perspective for the journey ahead.

Resources and Links Mentioned in this Episode:

• Reliant Mission: reliant.org/cpp
• NewBreed Training

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In this episode, Peyton Jones sits down with author, artist, and founder of Creo Arts, Winfield Bevins, to explore why beauty may be the most overlooked catalyst for mission in our generation. Drawing from his new book, How Beauty Will Save the World, Winfield unpacks how art, imagination, and creative calling can open spiritual doors that arguments and strategies often cannot.

Winfield shares his personal journey—from a troubled teen discovering hope through an art teacher, to planting a church through an art gallery, to now leading a nationwide movement that empowers artists and churches to become “missionaries of beauty.” Together, Peyton and Winfield dive into how church planters can recover a biblical, Spirit-empowered vision of creativity, cultivate guilds and galleries within their communities, and lead with beauty in a divided world.

If you’re longing for fresh imagination in ministry—or wondering why evangelism feels stuck—this conversation will reframe how you see discipleship, mission, and the arts.

Resources and Links Mentioned in this Episode:

• Reliant Mission: reliant.org/cpp
• NewBreed Training

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In this episode, Pete and Peyton dive into one of the most explosive topics resurfacing online today: End Times theology. With Revelation videos going viral on TikTok and Instagram, people—especially younger generations—are asking fresh questions about the last days, the Antichrist, and whether current events signal something bigger. Peyton unpacks how church planters can step into that conversation with clarity instead of confusion.

Together, they explore the difference between dispensationalism, covenant theology, and historicist readings of Scripture, why many popular End Times interpretations miss the point, and how Jesus’ words in Matthew 24–25 fit into the larger storyline of redemptive history. Peyton highlights key resources that help ground leaders in sanity, not sensationalism—and explains why getting Revelation right matters for mission, evangelism, and discipleship.

Whether you love talking prophecy or avoid it at all costs, this episode will equip you to lead your people wisely, pastor skeptics compassionately, and keep the gospel at the center of the cultural conversation swirling around the End Times.

Resources and Links Mentioned in this Episode:

• Reliant Mission: reliant.org/cpp
• NewBreed Training

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What happens when hardly anyone shows up to church, the worship leader is gone, there’s no sermon prepared, and the pastor is running on four hours of sleep? Most church planters would cancel. Peyton didn’t—and it turned into one of the most meaningful Sundays he’s ever experienced.

In this episode, Peyton tells the story of a tiny gathering that turned into a powerhouse discipleship moment. A recovering addict asked real questions. A brand-new believer learned how to pray out loud for the first time. Walls dropped, Scripture came alive, and the Spirit showed up in ways no carefully planned service could have produced.

This episode is a reminder that church planting is not about the show—it’s about people. When you let discipleship take the lead, Jesus gets the spotlight.

If you’ve ever wondered how to create a culture where people talk, ask honest questions, pray for each other, and grow on Sundays—not just listen—this one is for you.

Resources and Links Mentioned in this Episode:

• Reliant Mission: reliant.org/cpp
• NewBreed Training

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In this episode, the Peyton & Pete kicks things off reminiscing about the early days of The Church Planter Podcast before diving into one of the most practical topics for planters today: how and where to meet.

Peyton unpacks his current church plant journey and explores creative ways to gather—whether in homes, co-working spaces, or even pubs. Together, he and Pete talk about balancing depth and width in ministry, why mission should shape your model, and how old rhythms like weekly communion can bring new life to a community on mission.

If you’ve ever wondered how to grow beyond your living room without losing authenticity—or how to make disciples in the middle of your neighborhood’s everyday spaces—this conversation will give you plenty to think about (and laugh about).

Highlights include:

• Why consistency matters more than ever in podcasting and pastoring
• Peyton’s vision for churches meeting in shared workspace
• The real-world costs of renting schools and community centers
• Blending centralized gatherings with scattered micro-churches
• Taking communion seriously in every setting
• A reminder that the mission always dictates the model

Resources and Links Mentioned in this Episode:

• Reliant Mission: reliant.org/cpp
• NewBreed Training

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In this powerful conversation, Peyton Jones sits down with Christian Mungai, Global Movement Pastor at Mariners Church and author of People Are the Wealth, to explore how the global landscape of missions is shifting — and why that’s good news for the Church.

Born in Kenya and now serving in California, Christian shares his remarkable family story that traces the full circle of missions: from the Scottish missionaries who reached his grandfather to his own call as a missionary to North America. Together, he and Peyton unpack how the center of Christianity has moved to the Global South, what that means for Western churches, and how a new era of interdependent mission is emerging.

They discuss the African proverb behind his book title — “Money can make you rich, but only people make you wealthy” — and why relationships, not results, are the true measure of ministry. You’ll also hear the surprising story of how Mariners Church adopted Kenya’s Mizizi discipleship process, transforming it into Rooted, now used by thousands of churches worldwide.

This episode challenges every leader to rethink mission as collaboration rather than conquest, to trade independence for interdependence, and to rediscover what it means to love people as the greatest wealth of all.

Resources and Links Mentioned in this Episode:

• Reliant Mission: reliant.org/cpp
• NewBreed Training

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In this episode, Chestly Lunday sits down with Carey Nieuwhof — pastor, author, and host of The Carey Nieuwhof Leadership Podcast — to talk about how churches and leaders can stay healthy and innovative in a rapidly changing world.

Carey unpacks why most great ideas have a five-to-seven-year shelf life, how leaders can navigate the “second S-curve” without losing their identity, and why humility and curiosity are key to long-term influence. They dive into the future of church models — from micro-expressions to digital communities — and explore how to build platforms that serve a mission instead of egos.

Whether you’re a pastor, entrepreneur, or digital innovator, this conversation will challenge you to rethink what growth, character, and calling look like in the new era of church leadership.

Resources and Links Mentioned in this Episode:

• Reliant Mission: reliant.org/cpp
• NewBreed Training

Thanks for listening to the church planter podcast. We’re here to help you go where no one else is going and do what no one else is doing to reach people, no one else is reaching.

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