Actress Leslie Bibb joins Sam while Mercury is fully in retrograde and they quickly agree that their shoulders only fully relax when they’re in the country despite both living in the city.  They talk about being subject to the winds of planetary forces, not being gamblers (they both abide by a strict “only 20 dollars at a time” rule) because they’ve worked too hard for their money, and their shared hatred of wasting stuff including chicken carcasses.  Leslie talks about how watching Bob Villa as a kid has inspired her own home renovation projects and teaching other women how to do renovation on Tik Tok and why she’s going to have spores in her sourdough that predate the country. They gush over The Great British Bake Off and agree it’s appointment television, taking cooking classes in foreign countries, people who have recipes they won’t even share with their kids, and how we can learn to disagree with our parents as they get older.

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