Clean or Sober

This was a great trio with two excellent guests!  We cover what their relapse looked like.  More importantly, what details and series of events happened prior to the relapse.  There is some good back and forth with a combined total of 20+ years of sobriety and recovery.  

The relapse was a small bump in the road, and fortunately neither of them ended up where they were the last time they decided to use. 

This podcast my sister decided to join me.  She shares being trafficked at an early age, what that looks like from a kids' perspective, and being a runaway.  She talks about the hopes and subsequent loss of our father at a young age, how that impacted her, and molded a lot of her decision making as she grew older.

We cover a story of her running from me on the street, denying visits while in jail, and ultimately a rather interesting story of her run-in with an undercover officer.

This episode is filled with wild things such as him creating an invention, sponsorship, getting clean as a newcomer during COVID, and hiding in the bushes at the young age of 13 after being up for 3 days assuming a star is a police helicopter.

This episode is filled with some great back and forth.  We talk about what relapse looks like.  We speak a little about how COVID has affected going to meetings.  We discuss what our first use looked like, and find a way to include the story about how I shoved a credit card in my ass cheeks.

My very first Clean or Sober Podcast episode!  I chose a great friend of mine and sponsee.  We have worked together for more than five years.  This is just a snippet of his story.  We do manage to cram into the episode his story of struggling in early use trying to raise a baby at 18.  We talk about the point of absolute hopelessness in which he didn't want to continue living.  We also talk about what his spiritual awakening looks like, and share some war stories.