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What began as a conversation did not stay there. It turned into persistence. Into urgency. Into late-night phone calls and constant coordination. Into people refusing to sit still.
At the center of it was a question: What do the people of Gaza need right now, and how do we get it to them?
Clean Shelter was born from that question, and from two women who refused to be bystanders.
In this episode, we are joined remotely for the first time this season by Seba AbuDaqa and Tom Kellner, founders of the German NGO now working alongside teams on the ground in Gaza. But this work does not begin abroad. It begins inside Gaza itself. The volunteers there know what their communities need. They know the terrain, the shortages, and the risks. They know how to build, repair, and distribute under impossible conditions.
Seba and Tom walk us through the logistics and daily problem-solving behind what they call “the bare minimum”: sanitary needs and shelter solutions for tens of thousands of Gazans. What sounds simple on paper requires resourcefulness, trust, and people on the ground who are willing to act.
While the world debates the future of Gaza, Clean Shelter is urgently tending to its present, one tent, one desalination unit, and one toilet at a time.
This is a conversation about refusing to let dialogue end at words, and about what happens when people carry it forward into action.
Donate to Clean Shelter here, and be sure to check out HUMAN EYES - a powerful project with proceeds going directly to them.
Disclaimer: This episode was recorded on December 1, 2025. The facts presented in this episode reflect what was known at the time, but new information may have since come to light. Similarly, the opinions expressed by the hosts were shaped by our perspectives at the time of recording and may have evolved as events unfolded. Please note that engagement with our guests does not imply endorsement, and the views expressed by our guests do not necessarily represent our beliefs, either on or off our platform. What has not changed is our commitment to a just and united future.
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What began as a conversation did not stay there. It turned into persistence. Into urgency. Into late-night phone calls and constant coordination. Into people refusing to sit still.
At the center of it was a question: What do the people of Gaza need right now, and how do we get it to them?
Clean Shelter was born from that question, and from two women who refused to be bystanders.
In this episode, we are joined remotely for the first time this season by Seba AbuDaqa and Tom Kellner, founders of the German NGO now working alongside teams on the ground in Gaza. But this work does not begin abroad. It begins inside Gaza itself. The volunteers there know what their communities need. They know the terrain, the shortages, and the risks. They know how to build, repair, and distribute under impossible conditions.
Seba and Tom walk us through the logistics and daily problem-solving behind what they call “the bare minimum”: sanitary needs and shelter solutions for tens of thousands of Gazans. What sounds simple on paper requires resourcefulness, trust, and people on the ground who are willing to act.
While the world debates the future of Gaza, Clean Shelter is urgently tending to its present, one tent, one desalination unit, and one toilet at a time.
This is a conversation about refusing to let dialogue end at words, and about what happens when people carry it forward into action.
Donate to Clean Shelter here, and be sure to check out HUMAN EYES - a powerful project with proceeds going directly to them.
Disclaimer: This episode was recorded on December 1, 2025. The facts presented in this episode reflect what was known at the time, but new information may have since come to light. Similarly, the opinions expressed by the hosts were shaped by our perspectives at the time of recording and may have evolved as events unfolded. Please note that engagement with our guests does not imply endorsement, and the views expressed by our guests do not necessarily represent our beliefs, either on or off our platform. What has not changed is our commitment to a just and united future.
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