What happens when the people you’ve spent years working alongside suddenly aren’t there anymore? For Kyle Olson—writer, podcaster, audio dramatist, and inveterate storyteller—grief arrived not as a single storm, but as a pair of Thursdays. This week, Kyle shares the sudden losses of two important figures in his life and reflects on what it means to grieve not just family, but work kin: the people who see us at our most capable, our most frustrated, our most ourselves.

Along the way, we dig into the odd rigidity of American funerals, the messy unpredictability of grief, and the surprising ways death has crept into Kyle’s creative work without him even noticing. From the origins of The Swashbuckling Ladies Debate Society to a poignant headstone he’s been quietly carrying in his pocket since he was 16, this episode explores the legacy we build not through accolades or architecture, but through the lives we touch—and the stories we keep telling.