Today’s topic touches every human being… We've all journeyed through struggle and fear.  We all go through the lumps and bumps of life’s challenges… Mostly we have NO clue as to how to negotiate these challenges, yet alone understand their deeper meaning.  What does it take to move ourselves, from fear and struggle to spirit, trust and faith.  Where are you standing on your spiritual ladder of life?  
 
Join Rev. Christine Heart Savage and Co Host Dr Pat Baccili for this lively discussion as they share bits and pieces of their own life's journey and how they learned to negotiate their own spiritual ladders and what's it's meant for their lives so far.
 


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