On this episode, Jenn sits down with her friend and industry pioneer, Mary O'Carroll, Chief Community Officer at Ironclad and quite possibly, the Legal Ops GOAT. (For those still catching up, that’s short for the greatest of all time.) In this conversation, they get real on some of their favorite topics; like how to balance passion with practicality in professional roles, the growth of automated solutions in the legal operations sector, and the importance of continued education as legal ops leaders. 

Finally, they share their strategies for time management as they chase down work-life balance and debate if that is even a real thing.

Enjoy!!

Scratch that, you probably need a dashboard, but trust us you don't need all those widgets.

On this episode, host Jenn McCarron sits down with Jason Barnwell, who leads Digital Transformation and serves as Associate General Counsel at Microsoft.

Jenn and Jason kick off our new CLOC Core 12 series with a conversation that could be its own Business Intelligence course. They go in-depth, discussing the journey of BI, its application in legal tech, and how to navigate the BI journey whether you’re just starting out, or in a more advanced legal ops shop.

Oh and about those dashboards. The two BI experts get into the utility of dashboards, sharing practical tips including how to start simple, and how to answer specific questions. They also share some common pitfalls that happen when you rely on dashboards too much.

Enjoy the show!

WE ARE BACK. Happy New Year. On today's episode, host, and new CLOC President, Jenn McCarron is joined by friend and legal ops colleague Lewis Bretts. The two catch up in NYC this fall after a whirlwind week of conferences. Tune in to hear the two discuss the future of legal ops, their shared skepticism around generative AI, the importance of psychology and so much more! 

Well, we did it! We made it to the finish line for 2023. What a year!!

On today's episode, Jenn sits down with CLOC Talk Producer Drea Bernardi. They recap the year and Jenn reacts to her hallway recordings from CGI and the EMEA Summit. Find out what "Faster Deal Times" really means, in this end-of-year holiday special.

Wishing you all the happiest of holidays.

We will see you in the new year.

In this episode, Jenn is joined by Yesenia "Jessie" Santiago Egner, Legal Operations Strategic Advisor at Otsuka Pharmaceutical Companies(US). This is a new role for Jessie and she shares her initial tasks in her new role, including a maturity assessment of each competency, and the upcoming presentation of her findings.

This episode covers Jessie's process of familiarizing herself with a new industry, and how she goes about designing a strategic plan. She also highlights the valuable insights she obtained from paralegals and contract managers, emphasizing their potential to drive innovation.

On this episode, we're back at CLOC's 2023 EMEA Summit in London, where Jenn is joined by Wendy Butler Curtis, Chief Innovation Officer at Orrick, Herrington & Sutcliffe LLP.

The two leaders continue the 2023 topic of the year, Generative AI and what it all really means for us in legal.

Today we're dropping back into the podcast lounge at CLOC's 2023 EMEA Summit in London where Jenn is joined by Tom Rice, Head of Legal Ops and Customer Experience Strategy at Travel Perk.

There is no magic switch to transform contract technology inside a legal department, but you can get your legal templates and forms in-house in order.

In this episode, Jenn and Tom discuss how Chat GPT and other LLMs may not be a switch, but they come really close to being magic.

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On today's episode, we are back at CLOC's 2023 EMEA Summit in London, where host Jenn McCarron is joined by guest Amy McConnell, Head of Legal Operations and Business Contracting at Vodafone.

Jenn and Amy get into the perennial topic of contract lifecycle management. These two experts compare notes on our methods for making tech tools that work for humans, not the other way around.

This week on CLOC Talk, CEO and Co-Founder of WOW Legal Experience Karol Valencia joins host Jenn McCarron for a colorful conversation on the most elusive of all unicorns, the legal design unicorn.

If you have been in the comments on LinkedIn lately you have heard Jenn's thoughts on the topic of legal design.

This conversation with Karol may have changed her mind on a few things.

And one more thing, does everyone in Legal Ops have a side gig as a musician?