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  • Episode 16: Understanding Mortgage Servicing, VA Loans, and the Secondary Market with Mo Phanor

    In this episode of Closing Market Weekly, Phillip Hogan welcomes mortgage professional Mo Phanor, an experienced portfolio and servicing expert and Georgia-licensed mortgage loan originator. Drawing on his post–Great Recession experience, Mo explains how he “accidentally” entered the mortgage industry and ended up on the portfolio management and servicing side—helping lenders mitigate losses, support homeowners, and navigate complex transactions with Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, Ginnie Mae, and private investors.


    Phillip and Mo walk step-by-step through what actually happens after a loan closes, including how a closed mortgage becomes an asset, what “servicing rights” are, and the difference between the company that owns your loan and the company that services it. Mo breaks down the primary vs. secondary markets, why loans are almost always sold, and how servicers handle your monthly payment, escrow, taxes, and insurance behind the scenes—often without homeowners realizing how much is happening on their behalf.

    The conversation also covers the major loan categories available to borrowers today: conventional loans, government-backed loans, and how products like FHA, VA, and USDA loans are structured. Mo explains who each loan type is best for—especially why veterans should strongly consider using VA loans and how to start that process. He also clarifies how and why servicing can transfer multiple times over the life of a mortgage, what those “welcome letters” and “goodbye letters” really mean, and what protections borrowers have when a new servicer takes over.


    Tune in now to learn how mortgage servicing really works, how Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, and Ginnie Mae fit into the bigger picture, and what every homeowner or future borrower should understand before walking into a closing table.


    Highlights of the episode:

    01:00 – Guest intro: Mo Phanor

    02:40 – Entering mortgages post-recession

    04:30 – Primary vs. secondary markets

    06:15 – How servicing rights work

    08:10 – From closing table to servicer

    10:30 – Who actually owns your loan

    12:30 – Fannie Mae vs. Freddie Mac

    14:30 – What Ginnie Mae supports

    16:00 – Conventional vs. government loans

    17:45 – FHA, VA, USDA overview

    19:30 – How VA loans benefit veterans

    21:30 – Steps to start a VA loan

    23:50 – Servicer’s duties to borrower

    25:30 – Escrow, taxes, and insurance

    28:10 – When your servicer changes

    30:30 – 15-day transfer notification rule

    33:00 – Why borrowers should care

    34:10 – How to connect with Mo


    Connect with Guest:

    Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mophanor/


    #MortgageEducation #LoanServicing #VALoans #HomebuyerTips #MortgageProcess #ClosingMarketWeekly #FannieMae #FreddieMac #GinnieMae #RealEstateFinance

    36 min
  • Episode 15: Building Together – Jeffrey and Ashley Hunter on Real Estate, Teamwork, and Trust

    In this episode of Closing Market Weekly, Phillip Hogan welcomes Jeffrey and Ashley Hunter, the husband-and-wife duo behind The Hunters Group. Known for transforming underperforming properties into profitable investments, the Hunters share their journey from a chance meeting on Hinge to building a thriving real estate business grounded in collaboration, faith, and long-term vision.


    Phillip, Jeffrey, and Ashley discuss their early business experiments, including an almost-launched trucking company, and how a job loss became the catalyst that redirected them into real estate. They break down the importance of mentorship, team-building, and having a clear “buy box” strategy when evaluating properties. The conversation dives deep into how the couple complements each other—Jeff handling numbers, logistics, and acquisitions, while Ashley leads with design, detail, and project management.


    Together, they reveal what it takes to balance marriage and business, how to select the right properties, and the lessons learned from both successes and setbacks. From establishing trust in partnerships to creating beautiful, market-ready homes, the Hunters embody what it means to build with purpose and unity.


    Tune in now to hear how Jeffrey and Ashley Hunter built The Hunters Group through vision, adaptability, and teamwork—and what every investor can learn from their approach.


    Highlights of the episode:

    01:00 – Guest intro: Jeffrey & Ashley Hunter

    04:55 – How they met

    06:00 – From trucking to real estate

    08:40 – Getting laid off and pivoting

    09:50 – Building the first team

    13:00 – Defining the buy box

    15:00 – Role of the realtor

    17:00 – Cash offers vs. inspections

    18:20 – Assessing renovation costs

    20:05 – Design inspirations

    22:00 – Balancing Airbnb & flips

    23:30 – Working as a couple

    27:00 – Selling properties

    28:30 – 90-day turnaround process

    30:30 – Choosing the right deals

    32:00 – Lessons from walking away

    33:20 – Final reflections and contact info


    Connect with Guest:

    Website: https://thehuntersgrp.com/home


    #RealEstateInvesting #PowerCouple #FixAndFlip #TeamworkInBusiness #Entrepreneurship #ClosingMarketWeekly #PropertyFlipping #PartnershipGoals #RealEstateSuccess #LeadershipInAction

    35 min
  • Episode 14: How I completed 10,000 notary signings, with Seben Griffin

    In this episode of Closing Market Weekly, Phillip Hogan welcomes S. Griffin, Owner of Griffin Notary Services in Virginia Beach, VA, and Signing Services of America’s Notary of the Month. With more than 10,000 appointments completed since 2018, Griffin shares how accountability, structure, and readiness have shaped his journey from curiosity about the notary world to becoming one of the industry’s most reliable professionals.


    Phillip and Griffin discuss the importance of reliability, research, and continuous improvement. Griffin recounts his earliest mistakes—from misplaced documents to unclear certificates—and how he turned each setback into a system that ensures accuracy and trust. He emphasizes self-reliance, preparation, and proactive communication, revealing why strong processes and personal accountability keep clients returning year after year.


    They also explore practical tools and routines that support high performance, including equipment setups, supply tracking, and mobile-office strategies. Griffin explains how discipline, adaptability, and ownership enabled him to sustain excellence through challenges such as the COVID-19 pandemic.

    Tune in now to learn how S. Griffin built a thriving notary business grounded in systems, service, and a mindset of responsibility that every professional can learn from.


    Highlights of the episode:

    01:00 – Guest intro: S. Griffin

    03:10 – Discovering the notary path

    04:45 – Lessons from early mistakes

    06:20 – Research and self-reliance

    09:45 – Building consistent processes

    13:00 – Tools and office setup

    16:10 – Managing supplies efficiently

    18:15 – Mobile office strategies

    21:20 – Using Dropbox securely

    23:40 – Adapting through collaboration

    27:20 – Staying ready and reliable

    29:40 – Operating during COVID-19

    35:20 – Final advice and mindset


    Connect with Guest:

    Website: https://www.griffinnotary.com

    Youtube:https://www.youtube.com/@GriffinNotary/featured

    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/griffinnotaryservicesllc/?hl=en


    #NotaryLife #SigningAgent #OperationalExcellence #Accountability #ProcessImprovement #ResilientLeadership #ClientTrust #RealEstateClosings #ClosingMarketWeekly #NotaryProfessionals

    38 min
  • Episode 13: From Podcasting to Profitable National Short-Term Rental Empire, with Ruben Kanya of Invested Escapes

    In this episode of Closing Market Weekly, Phillip Hogan welcomes Ruben Kanya, temporary housing specialist, author, investor, and co-founder of Invested Escapes. Ruben helps real estate investors and Airbnb hosts triple their rental income with fewer turnovers and less stress by securing midterm rental insurance contracts. Alongside his wife, Celine, Ruben has built a nationwide network that provides temporary housing solutions for displaced families while helping landlords maximize occupancy and profitability.


    Phillip and Ruben discuss how curiosity and connection led to Ruben’s career in real estate, the founding of his companies Invested Escapes and Invested Talent, and the mindset that drives his growth. Ruben shares how podcasting became his gateway into real estate, creating proximity to mentors and opportunities that transformed his business. He breaks down the importance of consistency, curiosity, and community in entrepreneurship, emphasizing that proximity to those “doing the thing” accelerates learning and success.


    They also dive into lessons on mentorship, the value of saying yes before you’re ready, and how taking action opens doors you couldn’t predict. Ruben’s story exemplifies how personal growth and professional evolution are intertwined—and how one conversation can change everything.


    Tune in now to hear how Ruben Kanya turned curiosity into opportunity and built a thriving nationwide business by leading with service, relationships, and long-term vision.


    Highlights of the episode:

    01:00 – Guest intro: Ruben Kanya

    06:00 – Curiosity as the foundation of success

    08:30 – Overcoming imposter syndrome

    12:15 – The power of proximity and mentorship

    16:00 – Filtering noise and finding the right mentors

    18:15 – Experiment, fail, and repeat

    22:30 – The importance of rewarding yourself

    23:35 – Building Invested Talent and saying yes before you’re ready

    25:55 – Discovering Airbnb and expanding into temporary housing

    28:00 – Podcasting as the gateway to real estate success

    31:45 – Lessons from consistency and clarity

    36:00 – The long-term game of podcasting and connection

    40:30 – Mentorship, service, and staying curious

    42:00 – Final advice and closing remarks


    Connect with Guest:

    Website: https://investedescapes.com/

    Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rubenkanya/

    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/rubenkanya_/


    #RealEstateInvesting #PodcastToProfit #EntrepreneurMindset #TemporaryHousing #MidtermRentals #InvestedEscapes #CareerGrowth #ClosingMarketWeekly

    43 min
  • Episode 12: Leadership, Longevity, and Lessons in the Title Industry with Jim O’Donnell

    In this episode of Closing Market Weekly, Phillip Hogan welcomes Jim O’Donnell, President of Equity National Title, who has been at the helm of the company for over 35 years. Jim shares his journey from law school graduate to industry leader, revealing how he stumbled into the title business and discovered a lifelong passion for collaboration, service, and process improvement. His unique blend of legal training, leadership experience, and people-first philosophy has shaped Equity National Title into one of the most respected names in the field.


    Throughout the conversation, Phillip and Jim explore how the title industry has evolved over the past three decades, from paper-based transactions and fax machines to the digital age. Jim opens up about the early challenges of modernizing an attorney-dominated market in New England, the incremental innovations that helped his company scale, and the mindset that kept them resilient through every market cycle. He also emphasizes the power of consistency, feedback, and “one transaction at a time” thinking—a philosophy rooted in his love for baseball and his belief in daily improvement.


    Jim reflects on how leadership and culture intertwine at Equity National Title, sharing stories of learning from mistakes, listening to customers, and keeping a human touch in an increasingly digital world. He discusses his work with October Research webinars, his insights on cybersecurity and compliance, and his unwavering focus on adding value to clients each day. Whether you’re a new title professional or a seasoned executive, Jim’s perspective offers timeless lessons on excellence, humility, and growth through service.


    Tune in now to hear how Jim O’Donnell has sustained success in a changing industry—and what his story teaches about leadership, adaptability, and creating long-term impact.


    Highlights of the episode:

    01:00 – Guest intro: Jim O’Donnell

    04:00 – Entering the title industry and early beginnings

    05:30 – Challenging the status quo and driving innovation

    07:30 – Expanding beyond Rhode Island and scaling regionally

    09:00 – Focusing on the borrower experience

    10:00 – The “at bat” mindset for continuous improvement

    12:00 – Building a culture of learning and feedback

    14:30 – Turning client complaints into process improvements

    18:00 – “Follow the evidence” — lessons in leadership

    19:00 – Scaling through service, not disruption

    21:00 – Major industry changes over 35 years

    23:30 – The human-digital balance in modern closings

    26:00 – October Research webinars and key industry insights

    28:40 – Advice for new title agents and leaders


    Connect with Guest:

    Website: https://www.equitynationaltitle.com/about/our-team/james-k-odonnell-esq 

    Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/james-o-donnell-6703685/


    Hashtags:

    #TitleIndustry #LeadershipInBusiness #RealEstateClosings #ProcessImprovement #CustomerExperience #CompanyCulture #ClosingMarketWeekly #ResilienceInBusiness #ServantLeadership #NotaryProfessionals

    32 min
  • Episode 11: Service, Organization, and Real-World Impact with Notary of the Month, Barbara Forster

    In this episode of Closing Market Weekly, Phillip Hogan welcomes Barbara Foster, Signing Services of America’s Notary of the Month for August. Barbara, a commissioned notary in Illinois, shares how she transitioned from being a stay-at-home mom to a trusted signing agent during one of the busiest times in the mortgage industry. Her journey began during the 2020 lockdowns, when she decided to reinvent herself, learn the craft from scratch, and step into a field that needed reliable professionals.


    Phillip and Barbara discuss her early challenges, the lessons learned from her first signings, and how mistakes became stepping stones to mastery. Barbara also reveals the custom tracking system she developed to stay organized across multiple signings, ensuring accuracy, efficiency, and peace of mind for clients and partners alike. From emotional hospital closings to the joy of helping first-time homeowners, she shares powerful real-world stories that capture the heart of what it means to serve with care and professionalism.


    This episode highlights the importance of precision, empathy, and adaptability in the notary world. Whether you’re a new signing agent or a seasoned professional, Barbara’s story offers actionable lessons on how consistency and compassion can turn an ordinary service into an extraordinary experience.


    Tune in now to hear how Barbara Foster became Signing Services of America’s Notary of the Month—and what her story teaches about service, resilience, and excellence in the field.


    Highlights of the episode:

    01:00 – Guest intro: Barbara Foster

    03:15 – Becoming a notary during the 2020 lockdowns

    04:50 – Learning the craft from scratch

    07:35 – First closing experience and lessons learned

    09:15 – The mistake that became a turning point

    10:40 – Staying organized with a tracking sheet

    15:25 – Meaningful hospital signing story

    18:20 – Representing title and lender clients

    20:00 – The joy of first-time homeowners

    22:05 – How to reach Barbara


    Connect with Guest:

    Email:  [email protected].


    #NotaryLife #RealEstateClosings #SigningAgent #OperationalExcellence #NotarySuccess #ClientExperience #ClosingMarketWeekly #ResilienceInBusiness #RealEstateProfessionals

    24 min
  • Episode 10: Pivoting with Purpose – Craig Robinson on Real Estate, Boards, and Career Seasons

    In this episode of Closing Market Weekly, Phillip Hogan welcomes Craig Robinson, a seasoned chief executive, board director, and advisor with over 25 years in global real estate, business services, and technology. From leading divisions through IPOs and transformations to advising growth companies, Craig has developed a reputation for bold thinking and operational excellence.


    Phillip and Craig explore the evolution of real estate, from analog brokerage to digital transformation, and why curiosity and adaptability are essential for long-term success. Craig shares the four seasons of a career—getting in, staying in, winning, and changing the game—and the three Ps that define your market value: people, process, and product. He also offers candid insights into pivoting careers, serving on corporate boards, and the mindset shifts required to thrive in times of disruption.


    Whether you’re navigating commercial real estate, residential innovation, or considering a pivot, Craig’s framework offers clarity on how to stay relevant, seize opportunities, and lead with purpose. Tune in now to gain strategies from a leader who has successfully bridged industries, roles, and eras of change.


    Highlights of the episode:

    01:00 – Guest intro: Craig Robinson

    03:55 – Scuba diving passion

    06:00 – Career beginnings in real estate

    08:00 – Pivot into technology

    10:25 – Curiosity before passion

    12:45 – Serving on corporate boards

    15:50 – Role of boards in real estate

    17:10 – Industry breadth and opportunities

    20:15 – Four career seasons

    22:10 – Advice for career pivots

    23:40 – The three Ps of market value

    26:00 – How to connect with Craig


    Connect with Guest:

    Website: https://www.craigmrobinson.com/

    Linkedin:https://www.linkedin.com/in/craigmrobinson/


    #RealEstateLeadership #CareerPivot #DigitalTransformation #BoardLeadership #MortgageIndustry #ClosingMarketWeekly #RealEstateInnovation #CareerGrowth

    28 min
  • Episode 9: Email Phishing Defenses with Tammy Ringeisen

    In this episode of Closing Market Weekly, Phillip Hogan welcomes Tammy Ringeisen, Vice President of Compliance & Client Audit at Mortgage Connect. With 32+ years across title, closing, and appraisal, Tammy oversees regulatory compliance, client audits, and vendor risk management—and she breaks down how Mortgage Connect vets third-party vendors to keep client data safe.


    Phillip and Tammy dive into today’s threat landscape, from bulk phishing and QR-code “quishing” to vishing, smishing, spear phishing, and clone phishing. Tammy explains why independent contractors are uniquely exposed, how AI is making scams harder to spot, and the practical routines that meaningfully reduce risk: segmenting email addresses, keeping software current, enabling multi-factor authentication, and slowing down to verify links and sender domains.


    They also discuss the culture of training at Mortgage Connect, plans to extend phishing awareness to signing agents, and the mindset for operational excellence at the table. Tammy closes with timeless guidance: treat every closing like it’s your own—double-check before you sit down and before you leave.


    Tune in now to learn how technology, compliance, and phishing defense intersect in today’s title and mortgage world—and what every professional can do to strengthen trust and protect clients.


    Highlights of the episode:

    01:00 – Guest intro: Tammy Ringeisen

    02:30 – What is Mortgage Connect?

    03:55 – Vendor risk platform for compliance

    07:15 – Tech + compliance risks

    08:00 – Phishing basics

    09:15 – QR “quishing”

    10:20 – Vishing & smishing

    12:15 – Spear phishing

    12:55 – Clone phishing

    15:50 – Multiple email strategy

    17:25 – Inbox hygiene

    19:15 – MFA & software updates

    23:00 – Verify links and domains

    26:50 – AI’s role in phishing

    28:55 – Training signing agents

    31:00 – Final tip: treat closings like your own

    31:45 – How to reach Tammy


    Connect with Guest:

    Website: https://www2.mortgageconnectlp.com/

    Email:   [email protected]

    Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tammy-ringeisen/


    #MortgageCompliance #PhishingPrevention #VendorRisk #TitleIndustry #CyberSecurity #NotarySigningAgent #RealEstateClosings #DataProtection #ClosingMarketWeekly

    34 min
  • Episode 8: Service, Resilience, and Title Industry Insights with Liz Olivar

    In this episode of Closing Market Weekly, Phillip Hogan welcomes Liz Olivar, President of Prosperous Title and Escrow LLC. With over 31 years of experience in financial services and title, Liz has built a career around people helping people, blending operational expertise with a service-first philosophy. From her start at GECU Federal Credit Union to leading Prosperous Title, Liz has consistently focused on building trust and protecting clients in every transaction.


    Phillip and Liz dive into the fundamentals of title work, exploring why listening and communication matter as much as technology and compliance. Liz shares candid stories about mistakes in closings, the unique role of title insurance in protecting homeowners, and how Prosperous Title earned the First American “Top Agent” award by staying open and serving clients through the pandemic.


    They also cover current market uncertainty, the importance of education for both staff and clients, and how networking and appreciation events build long-term relationships. Liz emphasizes that at the core of every deal is service—and the ability to truly put the customer first.


    Tune in now to learn how service, resilience, and expertise define success in the title industry, and what every professional can do to build stronger client relationships.


    Highlights of the episode:

    00:55 – Guest intro: Liz Olivia, President of Prosperous Title and Escrow LLC

    02:35 – The philosophy of “people helping people”

    04:40 – Better customer service: listening and communication

    06:50 – Biggest closing mistake: missing signatures and costing clients time

    07:55 – Technology is overrated without human expertise

    09:10 – Protecting homeowners by working backwards

    11:00 – Winning the 2021 First American Top Agent Award during the pandemic

    14:05 – Market uncertainty and the challenge of the “unknown”

    15:20 – Educating clients and staff to overcome challenges

    16:55 – The role of networking and peer relationships in growth

    18:20 – Prosperous Title’s annual open house and showing appreciation

    19:30 – Final tip: put your customer first in every transaction

    20:55 – How to contact Liz Olivia


    Connect with Guest:

    Website:   https://www.prosperustitle.com/

    Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/liz-olivar-6693a1194/


    #NotaryLife #RealEstateClosings #SigningAgent #OperationalChallenges #ClosingSuccess #NotaryTips #RuralBusiness

    22 min
  • Episode 7: Operational Challenges & Creative Solutions with Trina Miller

    In this episode of Closing Market Weekly, Phillip Hogan highlights Trina Miller—our Notary of the Month from Southwest Virginia. With a career that began in social work and transitioned into notary signing, Trina has completed over 1,700 signings since 2017 while building a reputation for precision, reliability, and problem-solving.

    Phillip and Trina dig into the daily realities of managing multiple signings in rural areas—from planning efficient travel routes to handling limited cell service and navigating mountain roads. Trina shares stories of perseverance, including midnight signings, creative map hacks, and the importance of preparing documents the night before.

    They also cover lessons from mistakes (like leaving a check behind), why routines and presentation matter at the table, and how flexibility often wins repeat business. Trina’s advice for newer notaries is simple but powerful: combine creativity with consistency, and never underestimate the value of preparation.

    Tune in now to learn how an experienced notary tackles operational hurdles, maintains high standards, and closes deals even in the toughest conditions.

    Highlights of the episode:

    00:55 – Guest intro: Notary of the Month, Trina Miller

    02:20 – 1,700 signings since 2017

    03:45 – First closing mistake

    05:25 – Routine and preparation

    06:25 – Paper vs. digital preference

    07:00 – What’s overrated in the industry

    08:20 – Operational challenges

    10:00 – Midnight signing in the National Forest

    12:30 – Advice for new notaries

    14:20 – Entrepreneurial lessons

    15:30 – How to contact Trina


    Connect with Guest:

    Email:   [email protected]


    #NotaryLife #RealEstateClosings #SigningAgent #OperationalChallenges #ClosingSuccess #NotaryTips #RuralBusiness

    17 min

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Closing Market Weekly brings you up-to-date insights on the U.S. mortgage and real estate closing space. Hosted by Phillip Hogan, CEO of Signing Services of America, each episode breaks down trends,…