Today, we get to hear about Mary’s recent breakthrough experiences. It’s some good news today, friends.

Last time we started processing through the aftermath of my visit to Mary’s house and we had more to explore, so here’s part two of that conversation.

Last time we finished up my momentous visit to Mary’s house. We had set a goal at the beginning our our podcast to let me into her home. Today, we debrief how that visit went for each of us.

This was an overwhelming experience for both of us. Mary reveals what she really wants to be able to do with her time instead of worry about her stuff. And I awkwardly ask if she wants my help to get ready for her looming house inspection. How I wish I would have been more celebratory about what it meant for me to just BE in Mary’s house. Instead I jumped in to help. Because it was a victory - bringing shame into the light where it can't survive; that's what really matters.

In this last conversation visiting Mary's house she reveals what she really wants to be able to do with her time instead of worry about her stuff.

This is the second episode of three we recorded during my visit to Mary’s house. In this conversation I see the worst, her most packed rooms and things got a little weird for us.

Mary lets me visit her house, and this is a very big deal.

We discuss how Mary stopped the inflow of stuff into her home by addressing her compulsive shopping habit. Also on deck: Will she or won’t she? Is Mary ready to let me into her home?

Mary gets rid of her precious vintage robe and lives to tell the tale!