Mary talks about trying to make a 2nd vintage clothing store appointment in the midst of heavy resistance. She particularly wants to bring a precious vintage formal robe that she has loved and displayed for many years, one of her most favorite pieces.

Last time, we heard about Mary returning to her childhood home where it all began. In today’s conversation Mary experiences resistance after her recent success getting rid of some of her vintage clothing collection.

Last time, we heard about the momentous clear out and what makes someone worthy of receiving Mary's precious stuff. In today’s conversation Mary returns to her childhood home where it all began.

More about the momentous clear out of Mary's vintage clothing and accessory items and what makes someone worthy of receiving her precious stuff.

Mary moves some stuff from her vintage clothing collection out the door.

Living in her house full of stuff requires armor. What's it like for Mary to keep putting on and taking off the armor to fight the hoarding dragon? Also, what's her husband's perspective on all of her stuff?

Mary tells us about going into therapy and getting zapped by a power greater than herself.

Mary’s epiphany question: Does buying things prove that she exists? Does each item validate her worth and if she lets each item go is it a chip away at her? "As I’ve been healing I realize the ridiculousness. I don’t have the clamor anymore. This is how you react when you make a conscious decision about do I like this or don’t I. Before it was what does this mean about me? Something internally has changed."

Mary shares when she was ready to admit that she was a hoarder, begin the healing process and let people help her. What's the difference between a minimalist (her husband) and a hoarder: someone who is in charge of their stuff and someone who isn't.

Mary shares her rock bottom low point and discovers that her stuff is getting in the way of living. She also discovers, miraculously, how to start taking better steps.