VHMA Manager to Manager

Coaching Up and Coaching Out


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Joining us this week is Amy Brauns, Practice Manager, RVT at Everhart Veterinary Medicine located in Baltimore, Maryland. People management can truly be the hardest part of veterinary leadership, and in this episode, Amy, who brings nearly two decades of experience and a deeply thoughtful approach, gets real about what it means to "coach up or coach out."

She shares how she and her leadership team leaned into the EOS (Entrepreneurial Operating System) model to face the messy, uncomfortable truth - most problems come down to people. From there, they started using The People Analyzer™ tool to assess who really gets the job, who wants the job, and who has the capacity to do the job. This approach is not about forcing people out but is rather about clarity, self-reflection, and giving people the tools (and space) to figure whether or not they are in the right place. Not every place is the right fit for everyone, and that's totally okay.

We talk through the tough stuff such as confronting long-standing team members who are great at the job but toxic to the culture as well as taking on those dreaded "this isn't a fit" conversations. Amy explains how their structured coaching process has turned struggling employees into top performers and helped others leave on their own terms, with dignity.

If you have ever found yourself avoiding hard conversations or keeping someone around just because they have been there forever even though they might not be the right fit for your workplace culture, then this episode is definitely for you. Amy doesn't sugarcoat the process, but we agree that the transformation on the other side is worth it!

Show Notes:

[1:37] - Amy Brauns reveals how using EOS clarified that most problems are people-related. [4:09] - Hear how soft skills proved difficult to teach, leading to better team alignment over time. [6:41] - Hear how, despite team longevity, change ultimately happened via clear communication and tools like The People Analyzer™. [8:25] - Amy's team focused mainly on role clarity and transparency, helping staff self-correct before goals were even set. [10:46] - Jill opens up about how removing a toxic veteran employee revived morale and reaffirmed her team's culture. [12:28] - Amy affirms that even just a couple of people who are rowing in the wrong direction can completely disrupt morale. [14:26] - Amy asserts that coaching begins with transparency and standards, helping staff improve or realize that the role isn't right for them. [17:22] - Exceeding expectations via hospitality and core values creates a standout, people-centered client experience. [20:56] - Amy advocates for accountability and structured check-ins. [23:56] - Jill adds that emotional intelligence must be taught and nurtured, both at work and in personal development. [24:51] - Transparency and consistency help build trust, leading to stronger and more unified teams. [26:40] - Empowering and trusting staff to solve problems on their own also helps build trust as well as confidence.

Thank you for listening. Remember you are not in this alone. Visit our website for more resources.

Links and Resources:

VHMA Web Page

VHMA Coronavirus Resources

VHMA Facebook

VHMA Twitter

VHMA on Linkedin

Amy Brauns on LinkedIn

Everhart Veterinary Medicine Web Page

Everhart Veterinary Medicine on LinkedIn

EOS Web Page

The People Analyzer™ Tool

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