"Only kids know Betsy Ross." Ann and Amanda discuss why they're still not discussing the Bachelorette and recap the most recent episode of Below Deck Mediterranean.

Then they interview lovely, funny, and wonderful TV writer Gina Ippolito (19:42)! Find out what Hollywood writers are up against these days .... network execs, keeps scrolling ....

In anticipation of the onslaught of Housewives headed our way, Ann and Amanda make some wild predictions about the drama to come (1:20:19).

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Gina's socials: @ginaippy

NOTE: Happy summer everyone! The WSANDA team is working remotely from various locations right now, so everything's a little fucked up. Some of the volume levels in this episode's interview are challenging.

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