Sofie talks to Desiree Burch about turning 40, mortality, finding the time to fuck, emotional connection, fragility, fat friends, her comedy central show Fat Chat, capitalism, patriachy, losing her virginity, boundaries and climbing Machu Picchu.

Trigger warning – Setting boundaries, aging, illness, death, sex, bodies, weight loss, exercise, eating disorders, nicotene, smoking, fatphobia, abuse, cancer, autoimmune disease, heart disease, diabetes, racism, beauty standards, shame, trauma, abandonment

Artwork by Linda Brinkhaus

Jingle by Harriet Braine

Produced by Dave Pickering

Guests booked by Kitty Edgar

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