David Leis sits down with Ludwik Klimkowski to reveal the powerful story behind Canada’s new memorial to the victims of communism. Why was it so controversial? What does it stand for? And why do some Canadians still downplay the horrors of communist regimes? 

They unpack personal stories of survival, the hidden costs of “the greater good,” and why remembering these tragedies is more urgent than ever. If you think communism is just a history lesson—this episode will change your mind.