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On this episode of the CMAJ Podcast, Dr. Mojola Omole and Dr. Blair Bigham speak with Dr. Sarina Isenberg and Dr. Modupe Tunde-Byass about the emotional and systemic challenges surrounding early pregnancy loss care in Canada. The conversation builds on themes from the recent CMAJ article, “Diagnosis and management of early pregnancy loss,” in which the authors advocate for a dedicated EPL pathway to care that bypasses the emergency department.

Dr. Isenberg shares her personal experiences with early pregnancy loss and the stark disparity in care she received—from a lack of empathy in an emergency room to comprehensive support in a specialized clinic. Her story underscores the spectrum of care needed, particularly access to emotional support during one of the most vulnerable times in a patient’s life.

Dr. Tunde-Byass, co-author of the CMAJ article and an obstetrician at North York General Hospital, highlights the success of dedicated early pregnancy loss clinics, which provide timely diagnosis, options for management, and a supportive environment. She emphasizes that emergency departments, often overstretched and lacking privacy, are not designed for the unique needs of early pregnancy loss patients. Instead, she argues for dedicated spaces staffed by trained personnel, including nurses and counselors, who can provide both medical care and emotional support.

Together, they explore practical solutions, including integrated care pathways outside of emergency departments, self-referral options, and the provision of bereavement resources. Dr. Tunde-Byass advocates for a holistic approach that could be standardized across Canadian hospitals, enabling patients to access sensitive, informed care without the retraumatization that often comes from repeating their stories in high-stress environments.

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