Compliance into the Weeds

The award-winning Compliance into the Weeds is the only weekly podcast that takes a deep dive into a compliance-related topic, literally going into the weeds to explore it in greater depth. Looking for some hard-hitting insights on compliance? Look no further than Compliance into the Weeds! In this episode of Compliance into the Weeds, Tom Fox and Matt Kelly discuss the June 29 Supreme Court decision in Trump v. Slaughter.

This decision upheld the president’s power to fire independent agency commissioners at will (with a carve-out for the Federal Reserve), overturning long-standing protections from Humphrey’s Executor. Kelly argues the ruling will politicize and degrade regulatory agencies, deter qualified minority-party commissioners, increase rulemaking volatility, and shift power away from Congress toward courts as rules are challenged. As an example, they cite the SEC’s proposal to allow semi-annual rather than quarterly reporting, which drew about 80,000 comments, with roughly 99% opposed, yet they predict it may proceed and later be reversed, creating compliance burdens. They then cover Georgia author Jean Wilson, sentenced to 10 years for a $66 million Medicare fraud scheme while writing healthcare compliance books.

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A multi-award-winning podcast, Compliance into the Weeds was most recently honored as one of the Top 25 Regulatory Compliance Podcasts, a Top 10 Business Law Podcast, and a Top 12 Risk Management Podcast. Compliance into the Weeds has been conferred the Davey, Communicator, and W3 Awards, all for podcast excellence.

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The award-winning Compliance into the Weeds is the only weekly podcast that takes a deep dive into a compliance-related topic, literally going into the weeds to explore a subject more fully. Looking for some hard-hitting insights on compliance? Look no further than Compliance into the Weeds! In this episode of Compliance into the Weeds, Tom Fox and Matt Kelly discuss the recently released Radical Compliance, Case IQ, and Compliance Week-sponsored survey of more than 325 compliance professionals quantifying retaliation against compliance officers.

Matt reports that 70% say they have suffered retaliation (79% including those unsure), 67% experienced it more than once, and women report slightly higher rates than men. Common retaliation includes exclusion from meetings (64%), being badmouthed (59.5%), and unwanted role changes (49%), while 28% report being fired. Fear is significant: 36% are uncomfortable raising concerns at their current employer, and 48% have been stopped from doing so at some point. Among those reporting retaliation to management, the responses were poor: 53% saw no action, 21% saw investigations without a remedy, and only 4% felt management supported them. Few go to regulators or sue, though two-thirds of the small group who sued after firing reported satisfactory outcomes. They suggest structural protections such as disclosure of CCO departures, contract/termination safeguards like those in Indian banking rules, and updates to DOJ guidance.

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A multi-award-winning podcast, Compliance into the Weeds was most recently honored as one of the Top 25 Regulatory Compliance Podcasts, a Top 10 Business Law Podcast, and a Top 12 Risk Management Podcast. Compliance into the Weeds has been conferred the Davey, Communicator, and W3 Awards, all for podcast excellence.

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The award-winning Compliance into the Weeds is the only weekly podcast that takes a deep dive into a compliance-related topic, literally going into the weeds to explore it in greater depth. Looking for some hard-hitting insights on compliance? Look no further than Compliance into the Weeds! In this episode of Compliance into the Weeds, Tom Fox and Matt Kelly discuss the recent Bosch export controls enforcement action involving two German subsidiaries that sold about $72 million in advanced microsensors and software to Huawei from 2020 to late 2024

Their actions violate U.S. export controls tied to the Foreign Direct Product Rule and 2020 “footnote one” restrictions. Although Bosch voluntarily self-disclosed, cooperated, remediated, disgorged profits, and received a DOJ criminal Declination, BIS imposed a $36.1 million civil penalty, citing fundamental compliance failures: an understaffed and underqualified export controls function, confusion between the de minimis rule and the foreign direct product rule (which has no de minimis exception), and mishandling repeated external warnings from business partners and suppliers. They highlight internal control and communication breakdowns (including external signals) and the need to build specialized export/sanctions compliance capacity, noting BIS issued a compliance framework in 2020 and offers training.

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Tom in the FCPA Compliance Blog: Part 1, Part 2, Part 3, Part 4, and Part 5 posts on Thursday, June 25.

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The award-winning Compliance into the Weeds is the only weekly podcast that takes a deep dive into a compliance-related topic, literally going into the weeds to explore it in greater depth. Looking for some hard-hitting insights on compliance? Look no further than Compliance into the Weeds! In this episode of Compliance into the Weeds, Tom Fox and Matt Kelly discuss a recent OFAC enforcement action fining FTI Consulting $1.05 million for a sanctions violation involving indirect dealings with Russia’s state-owned VTB Bank.

FTI provided economic analysis for VTB in litigation, but, knowing VTB was sanctioned, used a law firm as an intermediary to invoice and receive payment, which OFAC said does not avoid liability because prohibitions apply to indirect transactions as well as direct ones. OFAC doubled the base penalty of $525,000 explicitly to promote future compliance by similarly situated companies, signaling strong disapproval of “middleman” structures. The case also involved unpaid invoices that became an impermissible extension of credit to a sanctioned entity, highlighting the need for rigorous contract and payment-term review beyond basic sanctions screening and for dedicated sanctions expertise.

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A multi-award-winning podcast, Compliance into the Weeds was most recently honored as one of the Top 25 Regulatory Compliance Podcasts, a Top 10 Business Law Podcast, and a Top 12 Risk Management Podcast. Compliance into the Weeds has been conferred the Davey, Communicator, and W3 Awards, all for podcast excellence.

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The award-winning Compliance into the Weeds is the only weekly podcast that takes a deep dive into a compliance-related topic, literally going into the weeds to explore it in greater depth. Looking for some hard-hitting insights on compliance? Look no further than Compliance into the Weeds! In this episode of Compliance into the Weeds, Tom Fox and Matt Kelly discuss a recent slowdown in compliance and internal audit hiring, with more layoffs and fewer job openings over the last several months.

Matt attributes the “frozen” market to broader economic uncertainty, tariffs, the war in Iran, which is driving higher energy costs, and erratic regulatory enforcement, all of which, combined with executives’ indecision about AI’s costs and impact, lead companies and employees to avoid change. They note structural competition at senior levels due to a larger, more experienced talent pool and the limited number of top roles, while acknowledging opportunities in compliance-adjacent paths such as HR, legal, governance, and integrity functions, depending on experience and credentials. Matt suggests focusing on interpersonal and cross-functional skills AI can’t replace and highlights continued demand in trade compliance, whistleblowers, and anti-fraud/False Claims Act work.

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A multi-award-winning podcast, Compliance into the Weeds was most recently honored as one of the Top 25 Regulatory Compliance Podcasts, a Top 10 Business Law Podcast, and a Top 12 Risk Management Podcast. Compliance into the Weeds has been conferred a Davey, a Communicator Award, and a W3 Award, all for podcast excellence.

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The award-winning Compliance into the Weeds is the only weekly podcast that takes a deep dive into a compliance-related topic, literally going into the weeds to explore it more fully. Looking for some hard-hitting insights on compliance? Look no further than Compliance into the Weeds! In this episode of Compliance into the Weeds, Tom Fox and Matt Kelly discuss SEC Chair Paul Atkins’ proposals to overhaul filer categories and sharply reduce corporate reporting and governance obligations, including SOX 404B internal control testing and Dodd-Frank say-on-pay votes, alongside a companion proposal to allow semi-annual instead of quarterly reporting.

Matt explains the shift to only two categories, raising the large accelerated filer threshold to $2B market cap, eliminating smaller reporting company status, and leaving roughly 80% of public companies as non-accelerated filers with reduced disclosures (e.g., two years of audited financials). They note a five-year IPO grace period, dubbed the “Elon exemption”, that could cover large new issuers such as SpaceX, OpenAI, and Anthropic. They warn of weakened investor protection, reduced enforcement, and significant impacts on compliance and culture. The episode closes with reflections on Barney Frank’s intellect, style, and Dodd-Frank legacy.

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A multi-award-winning podcast, Compliance into the Weeds was most recently honored as one of the Top 25 Regulatory Compliance Podcasts, a Top 10 Business Law Podcast, and a Top 12 Risk Management Podcast. Compliance into the Weeds has been conferred a Davey, a Communicator Award, and a W3 Award, all for podcast excellence.

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The award-winning Compliance into the Weeds is the only weekly podcast that takes a deep dive into a compliance-related topic, literally going into the weeds to explore it more fully. Looking for some hard-hitting insights on compliance? Look no further than Compliance into the Weeds! In this episode of Compliance into the Weeds, Tom Fox and Matt Kelly discuss how internal dysfunction at the U.S. Department of Justice is creating uncertainty for corporate compliance teams and corporations more generally.

Focusing on a reported turf battle between the long-standing Fraud Section in the Criminal Division, established in 1955 and central to FCPA enforcement and compliance guidance, and a newly created national Fraud Division, which was initially framed as targeting government benefits fraud. They argue that the reorganization could drain expertise, reduce future DOJ guidance, and distort enforcement into politically selective actions, citing IBM’s $17 million settlement, an EEOC case involving The New York Times and Smartmatic, and Smartmatic’s experience. They also highlight DOJ staffing losses with a net 20% fewer lawyers, loss of experienced attorneys, reliance on inexperienced hires and bonuses, and warn that the volatility may chill voluntary self-disclosure despite DOJ messaging encouraging it.

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A multi-award-winning podcast, Compliance into the Weeds was most recently honored as one of the Top 25 Regulatory Compliance Podcasts, a Top 10 Business Law Podcast, and a Top 12 Risk Management Podcast. Compliance into the Weeds has been conferred a Davey, a Communicator Award, and a W3 Award, all for podcast excellence.

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The award-winning Compliance into the Weeds is the only weekly podcast that takes a deep dive into a compliance-related topic, literally going into the weeds to explore the subject more fully. Looking for some hard-hitting insights on compliance? Look no further than Compliance into the Weeds! In this episode of Compliance into the Weeds, Tom Fox and Matt Kelly discuss the recent departure of the President of the Ohio State University.

Matt and Tom raise a compliance-focused question: how should an employee respond after receiving a request that may implicate an improper relationship between a company president and his girlfriend? They highlight whether an employee should question or report a potentially inappropriate relationship based solely on the request or whether doing so would go too far without more substantive evidence. Their discussion emphasizes that addressing such concerns can be a delicate conversation for employees to navigate.

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A multi-award-winning podcast, Compliance into the Weeds was most recently honored as one of the Top 25 Regulatory Compliance Podcasts, a Top 10 Business Law Podcast, and a Top 12 Risk Management Podcast. Compliance into the Weeds has been conferred a Davey, a Communicator Award, and a W3 Award, all for podcast excellence.

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The award-winning Compliance into the Weeds is the only weekly podcast that takes a deep dive into a compliance-related topic, literally going into the weeds to explore the subject more fully. Looking for some hard-hitting insights on compliance? Look no further than Compliance into the Weeds! In this episode of Compliance into the Weeds, Tom Fox and Matt Kelly discuss a recent Law360 post by Hui Chen on the evolving calculus for self-disclosure.

Hui Chen’s insights into the Department of Justice’s (DOJ) evolving self-disclosure strategies are crucial for companies navigating the complexities of compliance in today’s uncertain regulatory environment. As a former DOJ compliance counsel and a Microsoft compliance officer, Chen emphasizes the challenges posed by a politicized, understaffed DOJ, urging companies to reassess their compliance programs amid shifting enforcement dynamics. Tom and Matt echo Chen’s concerns regarding the DOJ’s current state. Tom, acknowledging Chen’s expertise, highlights the impact of the department’s politicization and understaffing on the effectiveness of compliance efforts, while Matt underscores the importance of proactive self-disclosure despite uncertainties, stressing the potential risks of inaction under the current administration. Both agree that the fractured nature of the DOJ requires a reevaluation of traditional compliance and self-disclosure strategies.

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A multi-award-winning podcast, Compliance into the Weeds was most recently honored as one of the Top 25 Regulatory Compliance Podcasts, a Top 10 Business Law Podcast, and a Top 12 Risk Management Podcast. Compliance into the Weeds has been conferred a Davey, a Communicator Award, and a W3 Award, all for podcast excellence.

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The award-winning Compliance into the Weeds is the only weekly podcast that takes a deep dive into a compliance-related topic, literally going into the weeds to explore it more fully, and looking for some hard-hitting insights on compliance. Look no further than Compliance into the Weeds! In this episode of Compliance into the Weeds, Tom Fox and Matt Kelly discuss new Federal Reserve, FDIC, and OCC model risk management guidance issued late Friday, arguing it replaces detailed, bright-line expectations with thin, principles-based language.

They contrast the prior OCC guidance (109 pages) with the new 12-page document, saying it describes model risk governance abstractly but offers little direction on what banks should do, leaving decisions about materiality and oversight to management. They highlight practical consequences for bank compliance and internal audit, including reduced leverage to insist on prudent governance, potential weakening of AML model oversight under the strict-liability Bank Secrecy Act, and the risk of more arbitrary enforcement amid reduced regulatory staffing. They also note that the guidance excludes AI models, with future AI guidance promised only through a later comment process.

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A multi-award-winning podcast, Compliance into the Weeds was most recently honored as one of the Top 25 Regulatory Compliance Podcasts, a Top 10 Business Law Podcast, and a Top 12 Risk Management Podcast. Compliance into the Weeds has been conferred a Davey, a Communicator Award, and a W3 Award, all for podcast excellence.

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