In this episode, Michael Gungor (musician, author, and philosopher) joins me, Dr. Neel Bulchandani, to discuss the subtleties and layers of creative and spiritual life. From the "Eddies" of our personality to the "Hurricane" of our emotions, Michael and I explore how to move from a state of lack and "torsional debt" into a life of integrated presence. This episode explores the intersection of music, the Enneagram, somatic healing, and the profound simplicity of "being here."

Michael Gungor is a creative mystic living in Pasadena, California. Primarily known for his music, Gungor is the co-founder and primary songwriter of the eclectic indie band Gungor. The group's acclaimed albums blend elements of folk, rock, electronic, and world music, with Gungor's thoughtful, introspective lyrics exploring the divinity of the human experience.

Gungor began his musical career writing worship music for the church, inspired by his Christian upbringing. However, as his own spiritual perspective expanded and evolved, so too did his artistic experimentation. Aside from his work under his musical moniker, Gungor, Michael has also released three ambient instrumental albums with his friend and bandmate Tyler Chester as “On Earth”, as well as an experimental side project called “Weiwu.”

Beyond his music, Gungor is also the co-founder of the popular The Liturgists podcast, which brings together diverse guests for honest, thought-provoking conversations about faith, science, art, and the nature of the divine. He also has a second podcast exclusively focused on non dual spirituality called “Loving This.”

In addition to his musical and podcast endeavors, Gungor has co-written songs for other artists, produced records, and created music for film and television. He is also an author, having published a book in 2010 titled "THIS: Becoming Free."

An acclaimed live performer, Gungor and his band have toured extensively, building a devoted fanbase around the world. His music has earned him multiple Grammy nominations and numerous other accolades, cementing his status as a unique and influential creative force.

Time Stamp

00:00:00 | Introduction + New Intro Music

00:06:44 | The meaning of my name Neel.

00:12:01 | I share how I used the Enneagram somatically to help people move through integration and disintegration points during my intuitive movement practices.

00:15:52 | Michael describes Enneagram numbers not as who we are, but as "swirls" or patterns in a river that keep us safe and help us feel in control and more about our wounds.

00:24:31 | Instead of trying to escape the storm, Michael suggests moving deeper into it to find the stillness in the eye.

00:32:35 | When we identify as the "imaginary guy" in the future (seeking followers, money, or love), we lose the ability to enjoy the current moment.

00:39:22 | Michael shares his perspective on the meaning of the word “here”.

00:52:18 | True poetry is alive.

00:56:30 | I reflect on Michael’s episode with Pete Holmes, Ryan O’Neal and Rob Bell

01:05:49 | How to explore silence and no longer feel threatened by discomfort.

01:16:59 | Coping mechanisms are sophisticated and there to help you.

01:26:44 | Michael’s upcoming tour Mystic Hymnal

01:35:01 | The importance of sharing presence in person and Michael’s personal legend.

01:43:10 | Using the language of Internal Family Systems (IFS), he explains that every part of the psyche—no matter how lost or distorted—deserves to be treated with the love and gentleness one would give a child.

01:46:00 | Michael’s legend: “The Open Hand Method”

02:55:32 | The FULL SONG Smokeless Fire

Connect with Michael

• Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/michaelgungor/
• Website: https://www.michaelgungor.com/
• Loving this Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/magnificat-smokeless-fire/id1448995509?i=1000726099164
• YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@gungormusic

• The Enneagram: Focusing on Type 5 (The Investigator) and Type 4 (The Individualist).
• Ryan O'Neal (Sleeping at Last): Discussed as a fellow Enneagram explorer and artist.
• Pete Holmes: Mentioned in relation to a formative podcast moment (explicit content).

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In this long awaited episode of the Compromised to Alchemized podcast, I sit down with breathwork expert and author Jesse Coomer to explore the "anatomy of consciousness" and the evolution of human connection. As "Xennials," we look back at the technological shift of the late '90s, the Y2K hysteria, and how growing up in a world of dial-up modems shaped their unconscious perspective on change and resilience. We dive deep into the "inner universe," discussing the relationship between the conscious and unconscious mind, and why getting to know yourself often requires a circle of honest friends.

We explore the massive shifts in human history, from the discovery of fire to the rise of artificial intelligence. When we invented fire, we outsourced digestion. By cooking our food, we freed up biological energy, altered our facial structures, and created the "lunch hour"—ultimately building civilization in the time we used to spend chewing. Now, as "Xennials" standing on the precipice of the AI revolution, we are undergoing a second great outsourcing: The outsourcing of thinking. Jesse discusses the critical need for a new "language of breath" to keep our conscious and unconscious minds in alignment. We transcend the mechanics of the body to explore the vast "emotional landscape" of human potential. Jesse delves into his "Personal Legend"—a concept inspired by Paulo Coelho’s The Alchemist—revealing that his purpose isn’t to be the hero of the story, but the "Yoda" or "Big Brother" who guides others to their own treasure.

Jesse Coomer is a renowned breathwork authority, founder of the Breathwork Tactics program, author of numerous influential breathwork books, educational Youtuber, and as co-founder & lead faculty at The Language of Breath Breathworker School, he trains future breathwork coaches.

Jesse’s scientifically grounded approach to breath training caters to a diverse audience, including first responders, athletes, and CEOs. His programs enhance focus, decision-making, and overall well-being, offering specialized techniques for stress management, performance improvement, and recovery.

His evidence-based methods set a high standard in breathwork, reflecting a commitment to excellence that has profoundly impacted countless lives, helping individuals achieve both personal and professional success.

Time Stamps

00:00:00 | Introduction

00:06:25 | The origin story of The Breathwork Channel

00:15:36 | The anatomy of consciousness and is AI capable of the different levels

00:25:50 | The dot com bubble and its effect on consciousness

00:31:09 | Treating AI like fire, it is beneficial and dangerous

00:44:14 | The difference between consciousness and unconsciousness

00:57:30 | How to align consciousness and unconsciousness

01:05:30 | Jesse’s Personal Legend

01:14:42 | Jesse’s keys to knowing he is on the right path

01:32:10 | What Jesse’s 95 year old self would say to him

Connect with Jesse

• Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jessecoomerbreath/
• YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/JesseCoomer
• Website:https://www.jessecoomer.com/
• The Language of Breath Collective: https://languageofbreathcollective.com/home
• Breath Work Tactics: https://breathworktactics.com/

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In this episode of the Compromised Alchemized podcast I am joined by Meredith Oke, the founder of the Quantum Biology Collective (QBC) and the Institute of Applied Quantum Biology.

Meredith shares her journey from a high-stakes media career—interviewing Hollywood A-listers like Gwyneth Paltrow—to a "double tap on the shoulder" from the universe that led her into the world of quantum health. After battling chronic fatigue that traditional medicine couldn't solve, Meredith discovered the transformative power of circadian rhythms and light.

Today, she serves as a conduit, bridging the gap between complex emerging science and everyday application. This conversation explores the alchemy of human flourishing, the vulnerability of the coaching container, and how we can all look at our health through a quantum lens.

00:00 | Introduction

0:11:21 | Meredith’s journey to finding the Quantum Biology Collective

0:18:38 | Meredith reflects on her past careers and how it lead her to coaching

0:23:28 | A stand out moment interviewing Gwyneth Paltrow and her father Bruce Paltrow

0:35:20 | The origin story of GOOP and the collective motherhood mission

0:42:00 | Connecting people back to themselves

0:51:51 | The implications of stress on your life

0:58:40 | The importance of light

1:06:30 | For those of you struggling with energy, honor your rhythms

1:18:26 | Quantum Biology and what is the sun?

1:26:25 | Meredith’s personal legend and how she knows she is on the right track

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In this episode of the Compromised to Alchemized podcast, I sit down with Dr. Tanya Altmann, a world-renowned pediatrician, best-selling author, and leading advocate for integrative children's health. With 25+ years of clinical experience, national media visibility, and a deep understanding of consumer health, Dr. Tanya Altmann helps families and brands access the trusted guidance they need to thrive.

Dr. Tanya is trusted by the world’s leading health brands as a strategic advisor, helping them in product development, developing regulatory-compliance messaging, and navigating health communications during critical product launches and pivots. Dr. Tanya is a board-certified pediatrician with over two decades of experience helping children and families live healthier lives. She founded Calabasas Pediatrics Wellness Center to bring an integrative, whole-child approach to care—combining medical science with nutrition, mental health, and lifestyle support.

Dr. Tanya is one of the most visible pediatric experts in the country. She’s Editor-in-Chief of the AAP’s Caring for Your Baby and Young Child: Birth to Age 5 and a frequent contributor on Today, CNN, and The Doctors, bridging the gap between clinical medicine, media, and consumer trust.

Her visibility, combined with her clinical expertise, helps the companies she advises build trust and authority in the competitive family wellness market.

Of course, we also explore the "Personal Legend" of a pediatrician. Dr. Tanya reveals her mission: to move beyond "biohacking" for adults and instead focus on the First 1,000 Days of life to ensure children never have to "play catch-up" with their health.

We also discuss the evolution of Calabasas Pediatric Wellness Center, the importance of empowering other practitioners through open-source medical consulting, and the surprising embryological connection between the tongue and the thyroid. Whether you are a parent or a practitioner seeking to lead with curiosity, this episode is for you.

Timestamps

00:00 | Introduction

06:38 | Start of the Interview

08:47 | Tanya reflects on her family culture and her other interests

14:03 | Tanya’s Grandfather’s influence on her childhood

20:29 | Dr. Tanya explains why the journey to a long, healthy life begins on Day 1

24:22 | Dr. Tanya’s involvement in the infant formula shortage and how it influenced the standards of infant formula in the US

33:04 | Dr. Altmann’s pioneering work and how it has come full circle

39:04 | The importance of micronutrients and why are these deficiencies prevalent in children

49:58 | PANS, PANDAS and POTS explained and how to treat this

55:07 | The Calabasas Pediatrics practice

1:01:44 | Dr. Tanya Altmann’s Personal Legend and how she knows she is on track

1:10:10 | Dr. Tanya’s biggest piece of advice

Connect with Dr. Tanya Altmann and Calabasas Pediatrics

https://www.drtanya.com/

https://www.instagram.com/drtanyaaltmann/?hl=en

https://calabasaspeds.com/

https://www.instagram.com/calabasaspeds/?hl=en

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In this episode of the Compromised to Alchemized podcast I interview Nicole Cantello, Founder and Clinical Director of Santa Barbara Myo. Nicole shares her journey of relentless persistence that took her from academic struggles in California to becoming a top-tier dental hygiene graduate in Boston, and eventually a leading visionary in the field of myofunctional therapy.

She also discusses the desperation that often brings patients to her door and why providing Informed Consent is her highest priority. Nicole and I explore the Personal Legend as a map—using markers of humility, continuous learning, and divine connection to navigate the rapidly evolving world of myofunctional therapy.

Timestamps:

0:00 | Introduction

10:55 | Nicole reflects on the past couple of years in her Myofunctional therapy practice

16:21 | Nicole's history with dental hygiene and what lead her to Myofunctional therapy

26:40 | Nicole's personal legend and her superpower

31:40 | How Nicole discovered Myofunctional therapy

42:32 | How Nicole built a business and a collaborative team

51:38 | The importance of staying curious in healthcare

59:44 | How Nicole knows she is on track with her purpose

1:04:48 | The success of virtual Myofunctional therapy and collaborative care

1:10:05 | How to work with Santa Barbara Myo

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https://santabarbaramyo.com/

https://www.instagram.com/santabarbara.myo/

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Welcome back to the Compromised to Alchemized podcast. I am so excited to share this episode with you. In this episode, world-renowned psychologist and mindfulness performance expert George Mumford joins me to discuss the "Great Unlocking" - the idea that excellence is not something we build, but something we reveal by chipping away the blocks of fear, trauma, and survival mode.

George Mumford, famous for his work with Michael Jordan and Kobe Bryant, shares his "Georgisms" on intuition and the "Eye of the Hurricane". We discuss how to turn "survival mode" into "growth mode" through the lens of the Four A’s of Mindfulness.

George defines success not as a destination, but as the "progressive realization of a worthy ideal." We discuss how to move beyond the "illusion of separateness" to see every human being as a masterpiece. Whether working with the elite athletes or high-risk youth, the mission remains the same: releasing the divine spark within.

Timestamps

0:00 | Introduction

9:06 | The importance of "be like water"

12:22 | "What stands in the way becomes the way" phrase from Marcus Aurelius

13:59 | Embracing greatness and George's job as a performance expert

18:20 | How George looks back on how he uses silence to guide him

23:42 | Meditate and reflect

28:27 | How to embrace your greatness with the 5 super powers from the Mindful Athlete

35:32 | How to get out of flight or flight mode

45:00 | "Lose yourself to find yourself"

50:49 | The Four A's of Mindfulness

59:40 | George reflects on his experience with Phil Jackson in 1993 and the stress of success

1:07:05 | George reflects on the conversations he had with Michael Jordan

1:11:07 | George Mumford's personal legend and how he knows he is on track

1:18:50 | Embrace the greatness, find the flow and discover success

1:37:19 | The three things that George wants you to take away from this episode

George Mumford is a globally recognized speaker, teacher, and coach. Since 1989, he’s been honing his gentle, but groundbreaking mindfulness techniques with people from locker rooms to board rooms, Yale to jail. Michael Jordan credits George with transforming his on-court leadership, helping the Bulls to six NBA championships, while Mumford has also worked with Kobe Bryant, Shaquille O'Neal, and countless other NBA players, Olympians, executives, and artists. Mumford’s first book The Mindful Athlete: Secrets to Pure Performance is both a memoir and instruction guide. Say tuned in for the 10 year anniversary of The Mindful Athlete: Secrets to Pure Performance. George has added meditations and updates for this anniversary. He believes everyone has a masterpiece within, which he can show you how to access.

Connect with George

https://georgemumford.com/

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In this episode of the Compromise to Alchemize podcast, I am very excited to interview Sue Hitzmann, host of the Anatomical Gangster podcast and creator of the MELT Method.

We discuss her personal legend, exploring how she moved from fitness professional to a world-renowned educator. We also discuss why mobility is about so much more than just stretching—it’s about resilience, hydration of the fascia, and staying curious enough to keep learning from the giants in the field.

Sue Hitzmann is a fascia educator, manual therapist, and the founder of the MELT Method®, a groundbreaking neurofascial self‑care system used worldwide to reduce chronic pain, improve mobility, and support healthy aging. With over 25 years of clinical and teaching experience, she translates fascia science, somatic education, and nervous system regulation into accessible techniques and treatments for both the public and wellness professionals. Sue is the New York Times bestselling author of The MELT Method and MELT Performance. She hosts the podcast Anatomical Gangster and is a leading voice in the global fascia and longevity conversation, helping more people understand how fascia shapes how we move, feel, recover, and age. With over 3,500 trained instructors worldwide and a thriving MELT On Demand platform, Sue continues to expand fascia-focused self-care through accessible practices that support mobility, resilience, and healthy aging.

Timestamps:

0:00 | Introduction

11:20 | The MELT Method: Myofascial Energetic Lengthening Techniques the importance of fascia

19:33 | Sue's reflects on the loss of her husband and shifting grief into love

25:40 | The importance of nature in finding clarity

30:04 | One of Sue's biggest teacher in her life: her mother

39:30 | The importance of leaning into discomfort in discovering your purpose

44:29 | Sue's personal legend: to break apart the outdated dogma of exercise and fitness

51:48 | How Sue knows she is on track with her personal legend

1:00:50 | What Sue would tell her future self and past self

1:08:16 | The mind and body are the vehicles to engage in the human experience

Connect with Sue:

https://x.com/MELT_Method

https://www.linkedin.com/in/meltmethod

https://www.youtube.com/c/MELTmethod

https://www.instagram.com/meltmethod/

https://www.facebook.com/meltmethod

https://www.facebook.com/suehitzmann

https://www.instagram.com/suehitzmann

https://www.youtube.com/@AnatomicalGangsterPodcast

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Welcome back to the Compromised to Alchemized podcast. Thank you for being here! In this episode, I sit down with sleep expert and serial entrepreneur Mollie Eastman. Before becoming a leading voice in circadian health, Molly was a high-octane entrepreneur in the heart of NYC, navigating corporate discontent, studying nonverbal communication, and maintaining an incredible 2,500-day gratitude streak.

Molly reveals a powerful new layer to her mission: the concept of "Being Your Word" as a vehicle for freedom. They discuss how sleep isn't just a biological necessity, but the essential springboard for living a self-expressed and passionate life.

Mollie Eastman is the creator of Sleep Is A Skill and the host of The Sleep Is A Skill Podcast. Sleep Is A Skill is a company that optimizes people’s sleep through a unique blend of technology, accountability, and behavioral change. After navigating insomnia while traveling internationally, she created what she couldn’t find - a place to go to learn the skill set of sleep. With a background in behavioral change from The Nonverbal Group, she became fascinated with chronobiology and its practical application to sleep and our overall experience of life. Knowing the difference between a life with sleep and without, she’s now dedicated her life to sharing the forgotten skill set of sleep. In the spirit of that goal, she has created the #2 sleep podcast, where she has interviewed over 200 sleep experts, written a popular weekly sleep newsletter for over six years, partnered with luxury hotels & lifestyle brands, coached the world’s top poker players, and has appeared on over 175 podcasts.

00:00 | Introduction

07:32 | Mollie reflects on her entrepreneurial journey

14:00 | The importance of accountability when tackling a new endeavor

18:59 | Molly shares the prologue to her success that led her from chronic insomnia to a life-changing realization that would eventually help thousands reclaim their sleep

24:33 | Mollie reflects on what her past self would say is her personal legend

32:22 | Referencing Wayne Dyer, Molly discusses what happens when life "squeezes" you. Does gratitude come out, or something else?

39:52 | Mollie's personal legend of creating a life of, freedom, peace, and self expression

47:32 | The importance of 7 years throughout Mollie's life

50:36 | Mollie's wisdom to someone to give them better sleep TODAY

59:40 | What would Mollie do if sleep issues were completely resolved

1:04:28 | The through line to sleep as a gateway to helping others fulfill their life goals

🔗 Connect with Mollie

1. https://www.sleepisaskill.com/
2. https://www.sleepisaskill.com/optimize
3. https://www.instagram.com/mollie.eastman/
4. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCy-IU372xapHLvXnZRbXU7A

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In this episode, I sit down with Chantill Lopez—a 30-year veteran educator, coach, and change consultant who has navigated a remarkable career arc from journalism to the Thinking Pilates podcast to The Embodied Business, Inspired Brain Podcast to high-level nervous system coaching. Chantill shares her philosophy on uncompromising authenticity, the biological intelligence of our bodies, and how to stay aligned with your inner purpose. Chantill also explores the River of Harmony—a framework for understanding how our nervous systems move between chaos and rigidity. She shares her personal journey through burnout, the importance of "relational" vs. "transactional" support, and why the nervous system is the essential soil for any lasting behavioral or psychological change. She discusses the practical anchors that keep her calibrated.

Chantill Lopez is the creator of the educational and consulting company Nervous System Works and creator of the Nervous System Integration Facilitator (NSIF) training + certification program. With 25 years in somatics, neuroscience, and behavior change, she helps individuals and organizations create sustainable transformation and navigate change through Nervous System–informed frameworks. Her approach integrates Polyvagal Theory and brain-based techniques to strengthen adaptability, capacity, and steadiness even in high-stakes environments and especially in times of big growth and change. Chantill is also a movement educator, international presenter, and author of Moving Beyond Technique, creator and former host of two podcasts: Thinking Pilates and Embodied Business Inspired Brain. She’s trained with experts including Dr. Stephen Porges and Deb Dana and teaches globally from her home base in Sacramento, CA.

Timestamps:

00:00 | Introduction to Chantill Lopez

12:00 | What instilled Chantill's curiosity and driving factor to take risks

24:45 | Chantill shares her insight on biological intelligence and how she tunes in for her clients

38:55 | Chantill shares how she used her inner knowing to build The Embodied Business Institute and Nervous System Works

42:47 | The soil of change is the nervous system

49:10 | Chantill's gift of a pause to help soothe your nervous system

54:30 | Chantill's personal legend and how she knows she is on track

01:05:10 | Chantill reflects on her past selves and what their personal legend would be

🔗 Connect with Chantill

1. Website: https://www.nervoussystemworks.com/
2. Instagram: @nervoussystemworks
3. Email: [email protected]
4. Podcast: https://www.theembodiedbusinessinstitute.com/podcast

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In this conversation, I welcomes back Cherionna Menzam-Sills to discuss her latest book, The Prenatal Shadow. While many people focus on childhood or adult trauma, Cherionna highlights the profound, sentient experiences we have before birth. This episode explores the Prenatal Shadow—the unconscious memories and survival templates formed in the womb—and how they influence our personality, health, and how we meet the world today. We also explore the deep somatic intelligence of our earliest days. We discuss how cells shut down when they can’t fight or flee, the power of a practitioner’s presence, and the Womb Surround process—a gentle, group-supported method for re-patterning our birth stories.

Cherionna started as an Occupational Therapist and her work spans pre and perinatal psychology, embryology, and biodynamic craniosacral therapy. She has been a therapist for 45 years and has a wealth of knowledge.

🕒 Episode Timestamps

00:00 | Introduction

09:20 | Prenatal explained by Cherionna in the context of psychology

18:36 | What you can experience with working with the shadow

27:09 | In utero, the mother and baby are a dyad

39:33 | I reflect on a journey I had with a family and experienced perinatal memory

45:34 | How to work with Cherionna and her advice for practitioners

54:30 | The most helpful way to further understand and integrate Cherionna's work

59:59 | Cherionna's personal legend and how she knows she is on the right path

1:02:48 | What happens in a Womb Surround

🔗 Connect with Cherionna

1. Website: www.birthingyourlife.org
2. Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/birthingyourlife
3. Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@CherionnaMenzamSills
4. The Prenatal Shadow: Healing the Traumas Experienced Before and After Birth: https://www.birthingyourlife.org/the-prenatal-shadow/#
5. Karuna Dartmoor: https://www.karunadartmoor.co.uk/

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