This podcast episode interviews the host...Adrian Burden. This episode is borrowed with permission from Josh Teis and the Idea Day Network Podcast. This podcast dates back to 2020 and features Adrian giving insight to church leaders tackling racism and its blindspots. 

Listen as we categorize common responses to racially charged events—ranging from the "facts guy" who relies solely on data, to the "silent guy" who avoids the topic altogether, and the "gospel guy" who believes preaching alone will solve the issue. By highlighting these often incomplete approaches, we emphasize the need for a more comprehensive and empathetic response. Adrian and our hosts Drew and Josh explore the importance of cultural sensitivity, offering practical advice on how pastors and church members can more meaningfully connect with racially diverse congregations.

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