In this 2020 interview, host Olemo Gordon Brian speaks with Obakeng Leseyane — South African youth activist, public service fellow, and aspiring politician — about why young Africans are disengaged from formal politics, and what it will actually take to change that.
Obakeng makes a sharp and practical case: no one is going to make a seat for you at the table. Politics is not panels and speeches — at its core, it is a vehicle for driving change on the issues you care about, and if you are serious about getting into that vehicle, you sometimes have to think about building your own. He speaks candidly about his decision to run for political office, the challenge of finding a political home that matches his values, and why voting is not optional but also not enough. He also addresses ageism — what to do when people tell you to know your place — and the question of whether young people on international platforms are genuinely being heard or simply being used as tokens.
He closes with a charge that captures the spirit of the entire conversation, drawn from Cornel West:
"If your success is defined as being well-adjusted to injustice and well-adapted to indifference — then we don't want successful leaders. We want great leaders, unbound, unafraid, and unintimidated to tell the truth."
This is essential listening for any young African who wants to move from advocacy to power.
This interview was originally conducted for News Decoder's youth podcast strand "They Are Hearing — But Are They Listening?" and later featured on The 4th Generation Podcast.
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