Andrew MacDougall held the highest-profile communications job in Canada, as Prime Minister Stephen Harper's director of comms. His boss is generally remembered as tight-lipped around media and hostile toward scientific researchers. 

5:13 | Now a director at Trafalgar Strategy in the UK, MacDougall tells us about the evolution of his position on the politics of climate action, how the Harper era compares to the Trudeau (and Poilievre) era, the UK's renewables boon, and the future of Canada's energy industry. 

WATCH OUR JUNE 20 INTERVIEW WITH "FIRE WEATHER" AUTHOR JOHN VAILLANT: rtrj.info/062023Vaillant 

40:03 | Real Talker Garth says the oil and gas industry is being treated unfairly. Real Talker Gabe says Canadians need to give their heads a shake re: emissions. Ryan reads their emails to [email protected]. 

51:00 | Real Talker Carolyn says Charles Adler deserves a spanking. Ryan reads her email about Chuck's call to deport the driver responsible for the Humboldt Broncos bus crash. 

1:01:38 | Real Talker Gillian is "finally" able to enjoy hockey again! Ryan reads her email about the PWHL. 

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