In this week’s episode of Policy, Guns & Money, we start with Ulie Yildirim’s conversation about continuity and change in war with Professor Beatrice Heuser, Chair of International Relations at the University of Glasgow. Professor Heuser this week delivered the 2022 J.G. Grey Oration at the Australian War College. She and Ulie discuss her oration message, that we need to rethink many of our longstanding beliefs about warfare.

Next; it’s a cardinal question... what have we actually learnt from two-and-a-half years of the COVID-19 pandemic? Everyone agrees that the next biothreat is a matter of when, not if, but what are the future dangers and how prepared are we to face them? To explore these questions and more, Jasmine Latimore speaks with Associate Professor David Heslop from the University of New South Wales’ School of Public Health and Community Medicine.

Our guests this week;

Ulas Yildirim. https://www.aspi.org.au/bio/ulas-yildirim

Professor Beatrice Heuser. https://www.gla.ac.uk/schools/socialpolitical/staff/beatriceheuser/

Jasmine Latimore. https://www.aspi.org.au/bio/jasmine-latimore

Associate Professor David Heslop. https://sph.med.unsw.edu.au/people/associate-professor-david-heslop

Music: "The lullaby of the free hell" by Koi Discovery - FreeMusicArchive.org

Image: Carl von Clausewitz