What does it really mean to take your painting practice outside? In this episode I’m joined again by Australian artists Johnny K and Carly Le Cerf to talk about the realities of working en plein air - from capturing a horizon line to the challenge of painting in wind, snow, or heat.

We talk about:

• How working outdoors shapes their recent projects
• The difference between gathering research in the field and resolving a work back in the studio
• The role of memory, scent, and even sound in building a connection to place
• The physical demands of painting outside
• The value of working alongside another artist and how those conversations push their practice
• How being in new environments diversifies their work

This is a wide-ranging chat about the ways we carry the outside world into our work.

You can find Caly Le Cerf’s work here through Michael Reid Gallery and on instagram here

You can find my previous chat with Carly here

You can find Johnny K’s website here and his instagram here

You can find my previous episode with Johnny here and here

Mentioned in the podcast:

• Read more about One Thousand Kilometers of Hope here
• See Johnny K’s works with Day Gallery Blackheath here
• Julz Beresford at Michael Reid
• Amanda Penrose Heart at King Street Gallery
• Archibald, Wynne and Sulman Prizes 2025
• John R Walker at Utopia Gallery at Sydney Contemporary
• Jason Cordero at Lennox St Gallery 

You can find the podcast here

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