Conversations with MarTech

The sheer volume of content modern marketing teams are expected to produce is reaching a breaking point. Between shifting global regulatory landscapes like the EU AI Act, constant updates to copyright laws, and the pressure to maintain an authentic brand voice, marketers are caught in a permanent state of triage.

In the season four premiere of Conversations with MarTech, we sit down with Misti Vogt, SVP of Engagement at Orange Logic, to discuss why the traditional ways of managing digital assets are failing, and why the future of content operations belongs to "agentic" systems.

The shift back to IT and the need for ‘self-aware’ content 

For years, digital asset management (DAM) platforms were viewed merely as repositories for finished creative assets. However, Vogt points out a massive blind spot: the buyers for these platforms are shifting back to IT departments. Why? Because in an AI-driven ecosystem, information architecture and data context are everything.To thrive in an agentic future, every fragment of content needs to be "self-aware." It must contain structured data detailing:
Why and when it was created.
Who the target audience is.
Its full lineage (parent assets, derivatives, and child assets).
How it is performing in the market.

Enter the ‘brand agent’ 

While the industry has used basic AI capabilities like autotagging and facial recognition for years, Vogt explains that the true operational revolution lies in back-end orchestration — specifically, brand agents.

Instead of forcing creative teams to sift through massive brand portals or Figma documents for correct logos and font files, organizations can deploy an AI agent that implicitly knows the brand guidelines inside and out. Creatives can query the agent directly or submit finished files to it for automated compliance checks before entering formal review cycles, drastically reducing time to market.

Episode guide

00:00 Introduction
00:31 Meet Misti Vogt
02:04 The content explosion and evolving regulations 
03:07: The shift of DAM ownership back to IT 
05:38 Making content "self-aware" for an agentic future
08:37 Deploying “brand agents” in content operations 
11:09 B2B marketing strategy and building authentic relationships 
14:47 The biggest lie marketers tell themselves
15:23 Consumer-led personalization 
16:30 Episode debrief: The upcoming martech "reckoning"

This podcast is produced by MarTech, a Third Door Media property.

Start-up marketing isn’t for the faint of heart, and if you want to learn how it’s done well, you can check out the highlight reels on LinkedIn, or you can spend time with someone who’s scaled marketing start up and discuss what they’ve learned.

In this episode of Conversations with MarTech, Abby Strong, chief market officer and chief customer officer at Cribl, joins us to share her insights on the realities of scaling marketing for early-stage startups. 

Abby discusses the critical importance of clarity, earning founder trust, and building a technical foundation for sustainable growth.

Key takeaways from this episode include: 

The importance of clarity; if you can’t describe the problem your company solves in one sentence, you are simply "scaling confusion."

Earning the trust of founders by demonstrating a deep technical understanding of the product before translating it into value-based outcomes for customers.

Why success in a growing company requires employees to embrace the current stage of the business and pivot quickly rather than dwelling on how things "used to be."

Episode guide

00:00 Introduction
00:35 Meet Abby Strong
01:00 What’s missing from the common advice for start-up marketers on social media?
02:01 What do founders get wrong about start-up marketing?
03:13 Advice for talking to founders about marketing their start up
04:53 What are the most common mistakes made by start-up marketers?
07:08 What are the signs it’s time to scale marketing?
08:50 Where and when do you start building your start-up marketing team?
11:10 Advice for building out other revenue roles, like sales and customer success
12:53 What is the make up of a person who excels in start-up culture?

This podcast is produced by MarTech, a Third Door Media property.

Is your marketing organization still viewing AI as a simple cost-cutting tool?

In this episode of Conversations with MarTech, Teresa Barreira, CMO of Publicis Sapient, explains how her organization uses AI to reinvent work itself. 

Teresa and her team shifted the focus from roles to tasks and redesigning workflows with an "AI-first" approach. This approach dramatically increased speed and capacity — reducing campaign go-to-market times from 20 days down to just three.

Among the topics discussed in this episode:

• Why deploying technology to fix broken systems doesn't work and how to rethink workflows from the ground up.
• Understanding the task as the "atomic unit of transformation" to automate 80% of marketing activities without eliminating human roles.
• How Teresa’s team empowers every marketer to become a "builder" by creating more than 100 custom AI assistants.
• Why human domain experts are essential for training AI to achieve 100% quality through feedback and evaluations.

Episode guide

00:00 Introduction

00:31 Meet Teresa Barreira

01:32 The four steps Teresa used to transform her marketing organization

06:54 The key learnings Teresa took away from marketing’s transformation

10:00 What separates a successful AI workflow from one that fails?

13:11 What are the cultural and leadership shifts needed to transform with AI?

This podcast is produced by MarTech, a Third Door Media property.

As brands face an explosion of content across global channels, AI is being used not just to generate the content, but to solve the increasingly difficult challenges of organization, findability, and workflow acceleration.

In this episode of Conversations with MarTech, Erica Gunn, CMO at Canto, discusses the evolving landscape of digital asset management (DAM) and the significant impact of artificial intelligence on marketing operations.

Among the topics we cover:
Managing the proliferation of digital assets and the necessity of human judgment in an AI-driven era
Moving beyond translation to localization to ensure brand authenticity across diverse cultural and regional markets.
Practical applications of AI in tagging, natural language search, and automating repetitive tasks to reduce friction.
How AI-powered research and LLMs are changing how customers discover and interact with brands before they ever reach a website.

Episode guide

00:00 Introduction
00:28 Meet Erica Gunn
01:32 How marketers create and manage the proliferation of content
04:40 The DAM challenges of agencies and regulated industries
06:49 How does AI help solve the digital asset management challenge?
10:51 Leveraging AI for content workflows
12:01 What’s working for Canto’s marketing?
15:07 How prospects researching with AI change the way B2Bs market

This podcast is produced by MarTech, a Third Door Media property.

Marketers have more channels at their disposal than ever before, but somehow we’ve managed to fill each and every one of them with an awful lot of noise. 

For some marketers, the return of in person events after the pandemic provided an opportunity to build community, create connections, and escape from the noise. 

In this episode of Conversations with MarTech, we’re talking to Tara Corey, SVP of marketing at Optimizely, to explore how brands are cutting through modern content bombardment by prioritizing human connection and immersive storytelling by leaning on the value of in-person experiences.

Episode guide

00:00 Introduction

00:45 Meet Tara Corey

01:22 What makes content overload seem worse today than ever before? 

02:23 Is there an advantage to being the brand that doesn’t try to “out-screan” the others?

03:15 Why are in-person events thriving? What types of events are performing well?

06:22 What’s the future of events? Is it event personalization?

07:51 What types of events are Tara’s team creating?

08:39 The sweetest-smelling booth giveaway

09:07 How to create events that deliver value with less of a sales pitch

11:02 Events are a word-of-mouth experience

12:15 How do you build an event on an online community?

14:18 How does a re-brand impact the types of events you hold?

17:23 What can a theme park teach you about your brand and events?

This podcast is produced by MarTech, a Third Door Media property.

Many marketers missed the initial opportunity to reimagine their organizational models before implementing AI technology. Now, they find themselves at the evolving intersection of AI, data, and modern marketing strategy.

In this episode of Conversations with MarTech, Ryan Warren, Chief CRM Officer at Razorfish Warren discusses why many organizations struggle to realize the full potential of their martech stacks and how to pivot for an AI-driven future.

Among the topics we discuss:

• Navigating the complexity of legacy applications and point solutions by focusing on eight essential technology domains.
• Viewing the flow of data from big data clouds and CDPs to the final customer experience as a unified assembly line.
• The importance of establishing a common lexicon between marketers and data engineers to manage modern data foundations effectively.
• How AI may lead to the disappearance of traditional "buttons" in favor of more intuitive, integrated workflows.
• Using AI not just for scale, but to combat customer saturation and declining performance in direct messaging and email.
• Why teaching teams to use AI effectively is a leadership responsibility that requires embedding prompts and orchestration into daily work.

Episode guide
00:00 Introduction
00:38 Meet Ryan Warren, chief CRM officer at Razorfish
02:07 How did marketers blow the AI opportunity?
04:13 What does a martech stack look like in an AI world?
08:56 Have marketers failed to capitalize on using AI to help their data?
10:47 What would a conversation about data and AI in marketing look like one year from now?
12:52 Can AI help marketers avoid cognitive overload for consumers?
17:33 Do we fail at training our teams for AI?

This podcast is produced by MarTech, a Third Door Media property.

Are consumers at a breaking point with email and text message marketing? In this episode of Conversations with MarTech, we sit down with Eric Miao, chief strategy officer at Attentive, to discuss the evolving landscape of mobile communications.

Eric and I dive into how brands can move past the "quantity over quality" era of spam and leverage AI-driven personalization to build genuine customer loyalty. 

Discover why RCS (rich communication services) is becoming a game-changer for branded, engaging, and trusted messaging, and learn about the technical "tightrope" brands must walk with Apple and Google's new "unknown sender" filters.

Episode guide

00:00: Introduction

01:09: Meet Eric Miao

01:28: Are there too many messages for consumers?

04:04: What is the current state of RCS?

09:30: What is the ultimate messaging experience for users?

14:13: What to expect for messaging in the year ahead?

This podcast is produced by MarTech, a Third Door Media property.

As vibe coding, AI, and data play a bigger role inside revenue teams, a shift from fragmented best-of-breed stacks toward unified, AI-native operating systems is taking shape.

Naman Khan worked for legacy giants like Salesforce and Dropbox and now serves as CMO at Reevo, a challenger brand in the revenue platform space. 

In this episode of Conversation with MarTech, we discuss the evolution of marketing technology and the "integration tax" companies pay when managing complex, brittle tech stacks that can lead to data loss and inefficient sales processes. 

Khan also shares how Reevo is marketing in a crowded field, his philosophy of marketing as a "craft" rather than just a data-driven exercise, and explains why he thinks the future belongs to brands that can humanize their identity and connect with audiences.

Episode guide

Meet Naman Khan
Is vibe coding putting stacks in danger?
How does a Reevo approach marketing as a challenger brand?
What is working for Reevo’s marketing?
What is an AI-native platform in the eyes of Reevo’s customers?
What was Naman’s mindset when he took over marketing at Reevo?

This podcast is produced by MarTech, a Third Door Media property.

Are your team's high performers disengaged? It could be burnout. But it could also be bore-out.

Unlike burnout, which happens when people are over-worked, bore-out is caused by the boring repetitive tasks that sap purpose and meaning from the work people do.

AI could actually help with both of these issues, for teams that play their cards right. And if they do, people will be freed up to work on the strategic and creative tasks that challenge them and turn out to be fun.

In this episode of Conversations with MarTech, we’re talking to Christine Royston, CMO of Wrike, about how we motivate marketing teams in the AI era.


Episode guide

1:12: Meet Christine Royston

2:04: What is bore-out?

7:39: Are marketing teams caught between efficiency and speed vs. authenticity and creativity?

9:40: Will we ever regain the time and space needed for creativity, or has that opportunity passed?

13:03: What are the signs of bore-out? And how should leaders address it?

15:24: How to talk to senior leaders about creating the space for creativity and authenticity?

This podcast is produced by MarTech, a Third Door Media property.

Television has dominated the advertising market for the better part of 75 years, despite an explosion in channels and an entire makeover of the media landscape.

Despite advances in targeting through CTV, we know consumers will skip ads when it’s possible. As a result, TV advertisers are seeing ROAS go down and fewer opportunities to insert more ads into content. 

Advances in AI now allow advertisers to insert their products and brands into TV content in a programmatic-like way, on short notice, with targeting, adding a whole new wrinkle to a medium that’s ruled the ad market for three quarters of a century. 

Episode guide

1:18: Meet Cory Treffiletti

2:00: What does the longevity of TV advertising say about the medium and its results?

4:17: Why has TV advertising focused on interruption, which degrades the viewer experience?

6:07: What does the TV advertising playbook for 2026 and beyond look like? And does it satisfy both advertisers and viewers?

7:50: Product placement in TV is evolving

10:45: How does a new TV advertising model look to the finance people? How does it improve ROAS? Does it ask for significantly more budget?

This podcast is produced by MarTech, a Third Door Media property.