In this conversation, John sits down with the owner and CEO of the immensely popular satirical news site, the Babylon Bee.

In a wide-ranging conversation, they discuss everything from the intersection between Christianity and humour to the moral imperative to mock bad ideas. Along the way they also discuss the controversies that the Bee has found itself in over the years. Seth's faith, wits and sucess in both media and business give him a truely unique insight in the probelms that we are facing today.