Friend of the show Matthew Cornelius joins the GovNavigators Podcast to reflect on his time on the Senate Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee and his contributions to federal IT policy over his career. He also dishes some dirt and shares shocking personal facts about his time in college.

Robert and Adam also cover breaking news out of GAO (?!), the battle of the bots, and debate who got the better invite to events celebrating the upcoming 20th anniversary of the Chief Human Capital Officers Council.