In this episode, Steve and Andrew speak with Senator Patty Murray (D-WA) on the most pressing health issues before America. What is driving the astonishing resurgence of Covid-19 in the south and west, and what is now required? Why are we as a nation still hung up politically over masks and failing to reach the true level of testing we need? What should guide the U.S. in the race for a vaccine? In the current environment, is it possible to avoid a collision between science and politics? 

Senator Patty Murray (D-WA) has served in the Senate since 193. She is ranking member of the Senate Health, Education, Labor and Pensions (HELP) Commission, a senior member of Senate Committees on Appropriations, Budget, and Veteran Affairs, as well as a member of the CSIS Commission on Strengthening America's Health Security.