In this episode of Policy, Guns and Money, Michael Shoebridge and Marcus Hellyer discuss the key findings of this years The Cost of Defence report which was launched this week. Traditionally the Cost of Defence is a single volume report, but for 2020 it's being released in two parts - this first part discusses the impacts of the Strategic Update 2020.

Bart Hogeveen and Tom Uren from ICPC, the ASPI International Cyber Policy Centre, review the recently released Australian Cyber Security Strategy 2020 document and consider the implications of it's directions. (Spoiler alert - the document gets a 5.5/10 from Tom and Bart!)

ASPI Research Interns Daria Impiombato and Alex Pascoe finish this episode with their thoughts on the global rumblings around popular social media app, TikTok.

In this episode:

The Cost of Defence report: https://www.aspi.org.au/report/cost-defence-2020-2021-part-1-aspi-2020-strategic-update-brief

Michael Shoebridge: Director, Defence and Strategy. https://www.aspi.org.au/bio/michael-shoebridge

Dr Marcus Hellyer: Senior Analyst - Defence Economics. https://www.aspi.org.au/bio/marcus-hellyer

Tom Uren: Senior Analyst - ICPC. https://www.aspi.org.au/bio/tom-uren

Bart Hogeveen: Head, Cyber Capacity Building - ICPC. https://www.aspi.org.au/bio/bart-hogeveen

Alex Pascoe: Research Intern. https://www.aspi.org.au/bio/alexandra-pascoe

Daria Impiombato: Research Intern. https://www.aspi.org.au/bio/daria-impiombato

Background music: "Unavailable" by Causmic, via the You Tube Audio Library.