Curtis Morley sits down with longtime friend and professional speaker Clint Pulver to explore what it means to live with abundance, purpose, gratitude, faith, and ultimately peace.

Clint shares the remarkable story of how his dream of becoming a helicopter pilot was seemingly destroyed at age 21 when he was diagnosed with keratoconus and told he would eventually go blind. The experience forced him to abandon his original plan and attend college—something he had never intended to do. At Utah Valley University, he discovered new possibilities and developed the skills and relationships that ultimately helped shape his career as a speaker. Years later, advances in medical treatment and scleral lenses restored his ability to see 20/20, allowing him to fly again. He subsequently began using his passion for aviation to serve others through his Dream Machines foundation, taking children with disabilities and their families flying.

That journey becomes the foundation for one of the episode's central ideas: sometimes good things fall apart so better things can fit together. Clint describes the obstacles in his life as roadblocks that forced him to change direction and ultimately trust God's plan rather than his own. His philosophy is to keep moving forward, stay engaged, and allow God to redirect him when necessary.

The conversation then turns to the difference between accumulation and abundance. Clint argues that it is perfectly acceptable to dream big, pursue success, enjoy the things that bring you joy, and strive for greatness. The key is understanding why you want those things. His mantra is: "It's not about being the best in the world. It's about being the best for the world." He describes his father's philosophy of "learn, earn, return"—using what you learn and achieve to ultimately give back to others.

Clint also discusses the danger of endlessly chasing the next accomplishment. After years of intense work and sacrifice, he reached a point where he could look at what he had accomplished and say, "It is enough." For him, fulfillment comes from balancing three things: passion, purpose, and the ability to provide.

Another major theme is the idea that greatness does not have to equal pride. Clint and Curtis discuss how people can mistakenly shrink themselves because they fear appearing boastful. Instead, they suggest allowing greatness to flow through you so it can benefit others. Clint connects this mindset to gratitude, recognizing the people who helped him along his own journey.

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In this episode, Curtis Morley sits down with leadership coach and entrepreneur Liz Hartke, who has coached thousands of people and has worked alongside leadership giant John Maxwell. The conversation begins with Liz's entrepreneurial upbringing and her evolution from helping business owners scale their companies to helping leaders become the people they are called to be.

One of the episode's central ideas is the distinction between ownership and stewardship. Curtis describes ownership as a counterfeit of stewardship: ownership can create a sense that everything is "mine" and must therefore be controlled, while stewardship recognizes that we are responsible for what has been entrusted to us without ultimately possessing it. Liz expands this idea to business, leadership, children, relationships, and life itself.

Liz also shares the story of meeting John Maxwell, whom she had studied extensively. What begins as a reluctant trip to an event shortly after the birth of her fourth child turns into a personal meeting with Maxwell, followed by an invitation to work with his organization. Perhaps the biggest lesson she takes from the experience isn't networking or business strategy—it's curiosity and humility. Even at the highest level of leadership, Maxwell continued asking questions and learning from others.

The conversation then turns toward calling and purpose. Liz emphasizes that calling isn't necessarily one permanent destination. What God calls someone to do can change with different seasons of life. Her "Clarity Matrix" distinguishes between things that are "easy but heavy" and things that are "hard but light." The easy-but-heavy path represents things we're competent at and can do successfully but that leave us restless or unfulfilled. The hard-but-light path is challenging and uncertain, but it brings a sense of energy, purpose, and alignment.

The most emotionally powerful portion of the episode comes when Liz recounts losing her fifth baby during pregnancy and then nearly dying from massive blood loss. After surviving, she describes experiencing an overwhelming clarity: she and her husband decided they would no longer spend their lives on things that weren't aligned with what they believed God was calling them to do.

That realization led Liz to make difficult business decisions, including walking away from profitable work and programs that no longer aligned with her values. She describes the process as a daily battle against returning to what was comfortable, convenient, and financially safe.

The episode ultimately circles back to peace. Liz describes peace as a compass for determining whether she is in alignment, while Curtis describes it as the one emotion in his framework that cannot be counterfeited. Liz's most profound experience of peace came not when circumstances were easy, but when she surrendered control in the middle of the most difficult circumstances imaginable.

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This episode of Counterfeit Emotions features Mitch Whiting and explores a central question: What if becoming your best self isn't about becoming someone new, but returning to who you already are?

Mitch shares the story of his transition from a high-achieving corporate career—including his time at Walmart—to a radically different understanding of success, identity, abundance, and peace. A pivotal moment came when a nurse asked him to rate his stress from 1–10. Mitch answered 2, while his wife immediately said 9. That disconnect forced him to confront how disconnected he had become from his own emotional reality.

From there, the conversation develops the distinction between gratitude and abundance. Mitch explains that gratitude can become limiting when it is interpreted as "I should be satisfied with what I have." Abundance, by contrast, allows someone to appreciate what they have while remaining open to receiving more. He describes abundance as a state of receiving rather than clinging.

A major theme is identity. Mitch challenges the idea that we need to decide who we want to become and then construct that identity. Instead, he argues that identity is something we reveal by removing the suffering, labels, fear, and beliefs that obscure who we already are. He uses Michelangelo's David as a metaphor: the sculpture wasn't created by adding something—it was revealed by removing what wasn't David.

The conversation then moves into shame and choice. Mitch argues that words like "should," "have to," "need to," and "must" can reinforce shame because they make us feel as though we have no agency. Replacing them with "I choose to" creates freedom and allows actions to come from love and desire rather than obligation.

The episode ultimately reframes success. Rather than measuring success through money, titles, possessions, awards, or achievement, Curtis describes true success as surrender that leads to connection. Mitch expands that idea into becoming who you really are and helping others become who they really are.

The final destination of the conversation is peace. Mitch describes peace as being rooted in truth and argues that suffering comes from believing things that aren't true. Moving from false beliefs to truth allows someone to return to a powerful state and ultimately discover who they really are.

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In this episode of The Counterfeit Emotions Podcast, Curtis Morley sits down with leadership expert and author Shawn Moon to discuss his upcoming book, Roots, Relationships, and Results. The book grew out of a multi-year research project in which Shawn and his co-authors interviewed more than 100 accomplished leaders, asking them a deceptively simple question:

“What would your last leadership lecture be?”

The answers revealed a surprisingly consistent pattern. The most important lessons weren't primarily about business tactics, productivity, spreadsheets, or management systems. Instead, they centered on who we become, how we treat people, the relationships we build, the results we create, and the contribution we leave behind.

Shawn describes this as a leadership journey from Roots → Relationships → Results → Contribution. The "roots" are about personal authenticity, integrity and how we lead ourselves. Relationships are about seeing, inspiring, trusting and developing other people. Results are about creating sustainable outcomes. And ultimately, leadership becomes about what remains after the title, position and accolades disappear.

One of the episode's most compelling ideas is that great leadership is less about seeming successful and more about becoming the kind of person capable of creating meaningful change. Shawn shares stories of leaders who saw potential in people before those people could see it in themselves. That belief and trust often became the catalyst for dramatically changing someone's career and life.

The conversation also explores gratitude as a leadership competency, not merely a pleasant personality trait. Shawn describes gratitude as an "interrupter" that can change the trajectory of difficult interactions, while Curtis explains how being specific about why we're grateful makes the practice much more powerful.

Another major theme is the hard side of love and leadership. Love isn't simply being nice or avoiding difficult conversations. Sometimes the most loving thing a leader can do is give someone difficult feedback because they see something better in that person than the person's current behavior reflects. Shawn shares a deeply personal example of receiving feedback that exposed a blind spot in his own leadership.

The episode ultimately arrives at Curtis's powerful conclusion: “Connection is the goal. Surrender is the path.” For Curtis, the ultimate purpose of leadership, family, personal growth and life is connection—to ourselves, to other people, to love, gratitude and grace. Shawn agrees that authenticity and connection are central to the journey of becoming rather than merely appearing to be successful.

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This episode of Counterfeit Emotions features therapist Martin Palmer, who shares powerful insights on distress tolerance, emotional resilience, and how to become less reactive in everyday life. Drawing from personal experiences (including breath-hold training through free diving), Palmer explains how intentionally embracing discomfort can retrain the brain, reduce emotional overreactions, and lead to greater inner peace.

The conversation explores how modern comfort has made people more sensitive to discomfort, and how practices like breath control, fasting, and challenging physical activities can help recalibrate the mind. The hosts also connect neuroscience—particularly the growth of the anterior cingulate cortex (ACC)—to resilience, emphasizing that chosen discomfort leads to mental and emotional growth.

The episode ties into the broader theme of “counterfeit vs. authentic emotions,” encouraging listeners to shift from victimhood to empowerment and reinterpret challenges as opportunities for growth.

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This episode of Counterfeit Emotions features host Curtis Morley and therapist Amy Burton discussing the complex relationship between love, lust, and pornography, and how these forces impact both men and women.

A major focus is the rapid rise of pornography use among women, challenging the long-standing belief that it is primarily a male issue. Amy provides a therapist’s perspective on how pornography affects identity, shame, body image, and relationships—especially for women who often feel isolated due to stigma.

The conversation emphasizes the importance of removing shame, fostering open dialogue, and helping individuals understand their relationship with explicit material in a healthy, constructive way. They also touch on broader themes of emotional awareness, healing pain without adding suffering, and redefining what real love looks like.

Key Themes & Takeaways

Love vs. Lust

• Love is rooted in connection, growth, and selflessness.
• Lust is often driven by consumption, objectification, and instant gratification.
• Confusing the two can damage relationships and emotional well-being.

Pornography Is Not Just a Male Issue

• Stats shared: ~91.5% of men and 60.2% of women viewed pornography in the past month.
• The industry has increasingly targeted women as a growing market.
• This shift is changing relationship dynamics and personal identity struggles.

The Role of Shame

• Shame is one of the most damaging aspects of pornography use.
• Women often experience heightened shame due to societal expectations.
• Removing shame opens the door to healing, honesty, and growth.

Unique Impact on Women

• Women face internal conflict due to societal expectations of purity vs. sexuality.
• Increased exposure leads to identity confusion (“Which category do I belong to?”).
• Body image issues are amplified due to constant comparison and objectification.

Objectification & Body Image

• Pornography heavily focuses on the female body.
• This creates unrealistic standards and self-comparison.
• Many women struggle with self-worth tied to appearance.

Open Conversations Are Critical

• The question is no longer “if” someone is exposed—but “how are you handling it?”
• Honest, judgment-free dialogue fosters connection and healing.

Pain vs. Misery

• Pain is inevitable, but suffering (misery) is often added through shame and avoidance.
• Learning to face pain constructively leads to emotional growth.

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This episode features Curtis Morley interviewing entrepreneur and investor Bubba Page. The conversation explores Bubba’s journey from building and exiting companies to becoming an angel investor with multiple successful investments, including several “unicorns.”

Beyond business, the discussion shifts into deeper themes of purpose, abundance, fatherhood, and faith. Bubba shares insights on why most entrepreneurs should bootstrap before seeking investors, how financial success should be used as a tool for impact, and how his Fatherhood Movement aims to help men lead better lives at home and in business.

The episode ultimately centers on living a life of intention—moving from accumulation to contribution—and aligning success with service, family, and spiritual growth.

Key Themes & Takeaways

Entrepreneurship & Investing

• Bet on people, not just products when investing early.
• Most businesses should bootstrap first instead of raising capital too early.
• Validate your idea and achieve product-market fit before seeking investors.
• Modern tools (AI, tech) make it easier than ever to build an MVP independently.

Financial Freedom & Abundance

• True wealth is about abundance, not accumulation.
• Financial success should create freedom and opportunities to give back.
• Entrepreneurship and investing are powerful paths to building abundance.

Fatherhood & Responsibility

• Bubba’s Fatherhood Movement focuses on helping men lead better at home.
• Encourages building a side hustle responsibly before leaving a stable job.
• Emphasizes integrity: provide for your family without unnecessary risk.

Purpose & Giving Back

• Success creates a responsibility to serve others.
• Giving produces fulfillment and meaning beyond money.
• Real joy comes from impact, not material accumulation.

Faith & Personal Growth

• Life is a test of growth, awareness, and becoming better.
• Three levels of motivation for obedience:
1. Fear (lowest level)
2. Blessings/rewards
3. Love (highest level)

The ultimate goal is to act with love and alignment, not fear or reward.

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This episode of the Counterfeit Emotions Podcast features entrepreneur and author Richie Norton, who shares unconventional insights on time management, procrastination, identity, and purpose. Richie challenges traditional productivity norms by introducing concepts like “anti-time management” and “starting something stupid”—encouraging people to act on intuitive ideas rather than overthink or delay.

A central theme of the conversation is procrastination, which Richie reframes not as laziness but as a symptom of deeper emotional dynamics—particularly shame, fear of failure, and identity attachment. He argues that people often delay meaningful work because they tie their self-worth to outcomes. The discussion also explores how modern life fragments identity, how entrepreneurs can accidentally trap themselves, and why having a compelling “why” eliminates procrastination altogether.

Ultimately, the episode encourages listeners to detach from perfectionism, act from purpose, and pursue meaningful work with authenticity and courage.

Key Themes & Takeaways

“Anti-Time Management” Philosophy

• Traditional time management can trap people in busyness rather than freedom.
• True productivity = time freedom + meaningful work (time flow over cash flow).
• An empty calendar can signal leadership—not laziness.

The Power of “Starting Something Stupid”

• “Stupid ideas” are often intuitive, inspired ideas we resist.
• If it feels risky or uncomfortable, it’s often worth pursuing.
• Successful people often started with ideas others dismissed.

Procrastination Isn’t Laziness

• 100% of people procrastinate—it’s universal.
• Procrastination = misplaced effort on low-priority tasks.
• “Filling up on bread instead of eating the steak” analogy:
• Busy work = bread
• Meaningful work = steak

The Real Root: Shame & Fear

• Procrastination is a surface-level behavior.
• Underneath lies:
• Fear of failure
• Perfectionism
• Shame (“If I fail, I am a failure”)
• Avoidance protects identity.

Identity & Attachment

• People attach identity to outcomes (work = self-worth).
• Detaching identity from output reduces fear.
• “The creation is not the creator.”

Deadlines Drive Action

• People are most productive under pressure.
• Self-imposed or external deadlines are essential.
• Accountability accelerates execution.

Purpose Eliminates Procrastination

• When the “why” is strong enough, action becomes inevitable.
• Example: A parent protecting their child—no hesitation.
• Lack of action often means:
• The goal isn’t meaningful enough
• OR it feels too important (fear of failure)

Fear, Pride & Perfectionism Trap Growth

• High achievers often stop taking risks to protect reputation.
• Growth requires returning to a “beginner mindset.”
• Acting without fear or pride unlocks authenticity.

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In this profound conversation, Curtis Morley welcomes self-love researcher and positive psychology expert Katy Sine to explore one of humanity's most misunderstood concepts: self-love.

The discussion begins with an overview of positive psychology—the science of human flourishing—and quickly expands into deeper questions about connection, attachment, vulnerability, love, and meaning. Katy explains that positive psychology isn't about ignoring pain; it's about intentionally cultivating strengths, positive emotions, and resources that help people navigate life's inevitable challenges.

A central theme of the episode is the distinction between attachment and connection. While attachment serves as a necessary survival mechanism, true connection emerges when individuals become whole and integrated within themselves. Katy describes self-love not as selfishness or narcissism, but as a pathway to greater connection with others, the world, and something larger than oneself.

The conversation explores the "ingredients" of love, including self-awareness, acceptance, compassion, vulnerability, intimacy, service, and connection. Katy argues that love is not simply an emotion but a motivating force that drives humans toward well-being, growth, and meaningful relationships.

One of the most powerful moments comes when Katy dismantles the common misconception that self-love equals narcissism. She explains that the original story of Narcissus is actually about self-rejection and self-abandonment—not excessive self-love.

The episode concludes with a discussion about peace, gratitude for life's hardships, and how genuine self-love creates the foundation for loving others more fully. Both hosts emphasize that love is ultimately a state of being rather than something to be achieved.

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This episode of Counterfeit Emotions features Curtis Morley interviewing Jodi Orgill Brown, a speaker and author who shares her deeply personal journey through life-altering health challenges.

Jodi went from living a “white picket fence” life—thriving in family, career, and service—to facing a devastating brain tumor diagnosis that led to multiple surgeries, long-term complications, and a complete redefinition of her identity and capabilities.

Through her story, she explores powerful distinctions between power vs. control, victim vs. victor, and surrender vs. resignation. Rather than “overcoming” her trials, Jodi reframes life as a daily choice to conquer through perspective, acceptance, and intentional action.

The episode ultimately delivers a message of hope: even in ongoing hardship, we can choose growth, meaning, and impact.

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