Rob homes in on the specific and strange political moment in which Toby Keith made "Courtesy of the Red, White and Blue." Then, he’s joined by New Yorker music writer Kelefa Sanneh to discuss the song’s themes, cultural reception, and musical merit and the state of how we talk about Keith’s career.

Host: Rob Harvilla

Guest: Kelefa Sanneh

Producers: Bobby Wagner, Jonathan Kermah, and Justin Sayles

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