On this week’s episode, Chatrice and Luis welcome Damona Hoffman, certified dating coach and host of Dates and Mates podcast. Since last episode, Luis visit Chicago and wondering their role in a social circle, while Chatrice spent the holiday weekend on the lake and received a random text. Damona talks to Chatrice and Luis about a recent message exchange from Chatrice; data trends in dating, realtionships, and divorce rates; representation in dating and relationship help field; and, new dating terms we should be aware of.
Time Stamps
0:20 - Hello and Welcome Back
0:59 - What hosts have been up to
1:59 - Role within a social circle or friend group (Question, what is your role within a friend group?) care taker | social glue | hype woman | logistics
10:13 - Me moment of the week for the hosts
12:22 - Shout Out for the Culture: National Bikini Day (July 5th); Victoria Secret’s plus size inclusivity campaign attempt; slight-ish: Nicole Ritchie
19:52 - Guest intro
21:05 - Welcome Damona Hoffman!
23:56 - Tale of a Tinderoni
25:51 - Drive through the texts to the real in-person interaction
25:59 - “Texing is a necessary part of courtship and that everybody has to do their part for it to work and for you to get to that next step”
27:06 - Putting framework around communication helps move things along
29:11 - “You gotta get off the texts and off the apps to become a real person”
29:58 - Advice for person sending texts that are killing the conversation
31:02 - Avoid the texting trap: acknowledge that you have not been asked anything, “Is there anything you are curious to know about me?” “I feel like i haven’t said anything about myself, don’t you want to know my deep dark secrets”
33:55 - Pie of how much time and energy you have, dating can take up a big or small part, acknowledge how much you time or energy you have
36:22 - Hot Vax Summer and Data: lot of data said people are looking for a serious relationship, but it is the summer when dating/relationship doesn’t really happen
38:24 - Divorse and separation rates in the next couple of months
38:55 - Damona predicted there would be higher divorce rates, in Wuhan it was 3x higher than the average; did not happen here in the US, Damona predicts it will happen later this year (summer/fall)
42:53 - Representation in dating and relationship help field
43:37 - Racial preferences in dating, people have been hiding behind racial bias and unwilling to exmaine them
44:00 - Dating industry has enabled people to keep this racial bias, not examine it, and labelling it as a “dating preference”
48:00 - “Race open” when it comes to dating
52:41 - Asking Damona Questions from the Courting Cuties
53:13 - One person wants to meet in person sooner while the other person wants to keep talking and getting to know you you
54:05 - Strict rule: one week from the point of texting to next step like phone call, video date; that person is a time waster, says Damona
55:15 - Gay hook up apps: can lock things down in 10 messages or less
57:31 - Don’t accept a date/next phase within the same day, or same day dating because it is most likely they are looking for a hook up
58:45 - How to communicate to time wasters about your timeline?
59:04 - You don’t know owe anyone anything, you owe them human decency and some level of communication. You gotta take ownership of getting what you want to
59:35 - Damona advises women she works with to lead the converesation, to send the first message
1:02:15 - Current dating terms we shoud know about
1:02:34 - Zombie-ing: when ghosting comes back from the grave
1:03:05 - Orbiting: when the person is hanging out, they haven’t made a move, start liking your posts, or keep commenting on your posts
1:04:47 - The impact of social media on dating or hte opportunity with social media and dating
1:08:51 - Cold Girl Fall: when people will really start to date
Links:
Damona’s Washington Post article on racial bias - https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/magazine/date-labdaters-say-they-dont-tolerate-racial-bias-their-actions-say-they-do-have-racial-preferences/2020/06/18/0d1eace4-a039-11ea-9590-1858a893bd59_story.html
Website: courtingincolor.com / Email: [email protected] / Instagram: @CourtNColor
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