"What would you do in your church if they told you they wouldn’t pay you? I think it would make you think differently about your call, your programs, your strategy, and your tactics." In today's episode of The City Network Podcast, Dave Ferguson talks with Robert on escaping the paradigms of large scale church planting, in order to live into Jesus' "radical genius." They talk about what it looks like to revamp evangelism, Dave's work with Exponential and New Thing Network, and the 4 R's of church planting: relationship, reproducing, residency and resources. The conversation covers church planting in the context of reaching the next generation, church health, and warning signs to pay attention to when planting a church.

Dave Ferguson is the lead pastor of Community Christian Church, a multi-expression missional community that is passionate about “helping people find their way back to God.” Community has grown from a few college friends to reaching thousands of people in Chicagoland and around the world. Dave also provides visionary leadership for the international church-planting movement NewThing and is the CEO of the Exponential conference. He is an award-winning author of books that include The Big Idea, Exponential, On The Verge, Finding Your Way Back To God, Starting Over, Hero Maker and most recently B.L.E.S.S. 5 Everyday Ways to Love Your Neighbor and Change the World. Dave and his best friend Sue have three terrific adult kids - Amy, Josh and Caleb. Feel free to email him with questions, ideas, feedback or introductions at [email protected] Find more from Dave on his website: daveferguson.org, or on twitter: @daveferguson and instagram: @fergusondave.

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Here are some resources and references mentioned in the episode: 

On the Verge, Alan Hirsch and Dave Ferguson 

New Thing Network 

The Movement System

A Non-Anxious Presence, Mark Sayers