Robert and Tim (in-person together in Massachusetts!) talk all about the benefits of planting a small church as opposed to going into church planting with the intent of collecting large numbers of attendees, and how the small church model is a hopeful, kingdom-minded way forward for the American church. What does the small-church movement look like? What could it look like for you? Listen in!

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