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  • 8. Isolation and Mental Health

    Esme is, as always, amazing. Fortunately, Marcus already knew this.

     

    Trigger warning: This episode contains references to suicidal ideation. Listener discretion is advised.

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        Sources for this episode include:

        • Berg, Sara, MS. “What doctors wish patients knew about social isolation.” ama-assn.org. September 15, 2023. https://www.ama-assn.org/delivering-care/public-health/what-doctors-wish-patients-knew-about-social-isolation
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          • 1 hr 8 min
          • 7. Toxic Positivity, part 2

            Marcus prepares Esme and himself for their upcoming re-evaluation of Yacht Rock. Then, Marucs and Esme continue their discussion about Toxic Positivity (go back and listen to episode 5 for part 1) by sharing excerpts from journalist, author, and activist Barbara Ehrenreich’s 2009 book, Bright-sided: How the Relentless Promotion of Positive Thinking has Undermined America.

             

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              Sources for this episode include:

              • Yildirim, Ece. “Harvard-trained psychiatrist: Everyone needs these 3 new skills to succeed in today’s workplaces.” CNBC.com. December 15, 2023. https://www.cnbc.com/2023/12/15/harvard-trained-psychiatrist-new-skills-you-need-for-the-workplace.html#:~:text=In%20short%3A%20To%20succeed%20in,at%20employee%20coaching%20platform%20BetterUp.
              • Ozcelik, H., & Barsade, S. G. (2018). No employee an island: Workplace loneliness and job performance. Academy of Management Journal, 61(6), 2343–2366. https://doi.org/10.5465/amj.2015.1066
              • Ehrenreich, Barbara. Bright-sided: How the Relentless Promotion of Positive Thinking Has Undermined America. Metropolitan Books, 2009.
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                • 1 hr 14 min
                • 6. Where ADHD, Shame, and Calamity Meet

                  On this very special and completely unintended episode, Marcus and Esme describe the role their ADHD played in a recent set of events that included (among other things) the cataclysmic failure of a home heating system, the disruption of their production schedule, sequestration in a hotel suite, and the internal processing of a great deal of shame.

                   

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                    • Saline, Sharon, Psy.D.. “Stop Dodging That Dreaded Task! 9 Ways to Halt Avoidance Procrastination.” www.additudemag.com. February 7, 2023. https://www.additudemag.com/avoidance-procrastination-how-to-stop-procrastinating-procrastivity-adhd/
                      • “ADHD Medication.” ClevelandClinic.org. https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/treatments/11766-adhd-medication
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                        • 38 min
                        • 5. Toxic Positivity, part 1

                          Marcus shows Esme an article that set him off recently, which leads to a lengthy discussion about why we are encouraged to maintain a positive attitude, even while things are breaking down all around us.

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                          Sources for this episode include:

                          • Yildirim, Ece. “Harvard-trained psychiatrist: Everyone needs these 3 new skills to succeed in today’s workplaces.” CNBC.com. December 15, 2023. https://www.cnbc.com/2023/12/15/harvard-trained-psychiatrist-new-skills-you-need-for-the-workplace.html#:~:text=In%20short%3A%20To%20succeed%20in,at%20employee%20coaching%20platform%20BetterUp.
                          • “Resilience.” apa.org. https://www.apa.org/topics/resilience
                          • Ozcelik, H., & Barsade, S. G. (2018). No employee an island: Workplace loneliness and job performance. Academy of Management Journal, 61(6), 2343–2366. https://doi.org/10.5465/amj.2015.1066
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                            • 4. Post-election mini episode

                              Marcus unveils his grand plan for saving democracy but acknowledges he might be a little late. Then, Marcus and Esme briefly discuss their feelings and outlook following the 2024 election.

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                              8 min
                            • 2. Love and ADHD

                              It’s a tale as old as time. Two people meet, fall in love, get married, and get diagnosed with matching neurodevelopmental disorders. Their love remains strong, but how can their relationship function amidst so much executive dysfunction? Find out this week as Marcus and Esme attempt to answer the question: What does it take to make a relationship work between two people with ADHD?

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                              Sources for this episode include:

                              • "ADHD and Relationships." PsychologyToday.com. https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/basics/adhd/adhd-and-relationships#does-it-matter-which-partner-has-adhd

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                              1 hr 6 min
                            • 1. Impostor Syndrome

                              Ever since the pandemic it seems like everyone has been (informally) diagnosed with impostor syndrome at one time or another. But what does it mean if everyone thinks they’re a fraud? And what do these feelings have to do with the increasingly vague standards we’re being held to at work? (Spoiler alert: Possibly a lot)

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                              Sources for this episode include:

                              • Huecker MR, Shreffler J, McKeny PT, et al. Imposter Phenomenon. [Updated 2023 Jul 31]. In: StatPearls [Internet]. Treasure Island (FL): StatPearls Publishing; 2024 Jan-. Available from: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK585058/
                              • Bravata, D.M., Watts, S.A., Keefer, A.L. et al. Prevalence, Predictors, and Treatment of Impostor Syndrome: a Systematic Review. J GEN INTERN MED 35, 1252–1275 (2020). https://doi.org/10.1007/s11606-019-05364-1
                              • DiGiulio, Sarah. “6 ways to cope with ’impostor syndrome’ before it hurts your career.” Today.com. July 15, 2020. https://www.today.com/health/what-imposter-syndrome-pandemic-making-it-worse-t186732
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                                  59 min
                                • 3. Love and Depression

                                  Marcus and Esme have a remarkably frank discussion about the impact depression has had on their relationship. They discuss their respective experiences with chronic depression, and how each has attempted to help the other through these depressive episodes. But first, Marcus shows Esme a video of an iconic musical performance, which he believes to be “a cultural artifact of tremendous sociological import.” In reality, he just demonstrates the various twists and turns his ADHD brain takes while going down a rabbit hole.

                                  Trigger warning: This episode contains discussions about depression, anxiety, and suicidal ideation. Listener discretion is advised.

                                  If you or someone you love is dealing with these issues, please know that hope and help is available.

                                  Contact the 988 Suicide and Crisis Lifeline if you are experiencing mental health-related distress or are worried about a loved one who may need crisis support.

                                  • Call or text 988
                                  • Chat at 988lifeline.org 
                                  • Connect with a trained crisis counselor. 988 is confidential, free, and available 24/7/365. Visit the 988 Suicide and Crisis Lifeline for more information at 988lifeline.org.

                                    Sources for this episode include:

                                    • Goodman RJ, Samek DR, Wilson S, Iacono WG, McGue M. “Close relationships and depression: A developmental cascade approach.” Dev Psychopathol. 2019 Oct;31(4):1451-1465. doi: 10.1017/S0954579418001037. PMID: 30370876; PMCID: PMC6488448. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6488448/#R61
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                                      • 1 hr 34 min
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                                        If you’re sick and tired of listening to the negative talk track playing in your head, then why not listen to us instead?

                                         

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                                        About Crazy Together

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                                        If you’re sick and tired of listening to the negative talk track playing in your head, then why not listen to us instead? We are Marcus and Esme O’Kayvius (not our real names), a married, neurodivergent couple with a lot of experience managing our own mental health issues while raising a daughter and navigating the dystopic hellscape that is corporate America. Join us each week as we discuss trending mental health issues and explore how they impact our health and wellness. We’ll also examine the myths and misconceptions associated with mental health and what we can do about them.