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  • 76. Going No Contact

    Marcus and Esme dive into one of the most misunderstood—and emotionally loaded—topics in mental health: going no contact. What is it? Why do people do it? And why is everyone from Oprah to your uncle suddenly talking about it like it’s a generational crisis?

    Esme opens up about her own experiences, while she and Marcus break down the difference between self‑isolation and no contact, explore the many forms it can take (from low contact to gray rocking), and unpack the cultural baggage that makes this boundary-setting choice so controversial.

     

    Sources for this episode include:

    • Guy-Evans, Olivia. “Going No Contact With Parents: What It Means, Why People Do It, and How to Cope.” Simply Psychology, updated 28 July 2025, https://www.simplypsychology.org/going-no-contact-with-parents.html. 
    • Childs, Chivonna. “What It Means to Go No‑Contact With a Parent.” Cleveland Clinic Health Essentials, Cleveland Clinic, https://health.clevelandclinic.org/going-no-contact-with-parents. 
    • DoctorRamani. What to Expect When You Go No Contact with Your Narcissistic Parent. YouTube, uploaded by DoctorRamani, 8 months ago, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBHxgx-f2A0. 
    • No Two Children Have the Same Parents. YouTube, uploaded by Now Owned and Operated by Child Health BC (Formerly KidCareCanada), 12 years ago, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbXqSEkwOPo. 
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      Resources referenced in this episode: 

      • The National Domestic Violence Hotline
        • Online: https://www.thehotline.org/ 
        • Call: 1.800.799.SAFE(7233)
        • Text: Text “Start” to 88788.
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          • 1 hr 4 min
          • 75. HYPERFOCUS BONUS: Girl, You Know it’s a Parable About Accountability

            In this week’s Hyperfocus Bonus, Marcus and Esme tell the story of Milli Vanilli, a R&B/Eurodance duo who took the world by storm in the late 80s/early 90s, only to lose it all when it was revealed they couldn’t actually sing. Is it a tale of avarice and deception, or a parable about the importance of proportionate accountability? Oh, wait. I’m just now reading the title. Got it – it’s the second one. You should still listen to it, though.

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            • 29 min
            • 74. Risky Business: AI Tools and Mental Health Care

              In this episode, Marcus and Esme scratch the surface of AI’s impact on mental health: the wedge of isolation it’s driving between individuals (particularly children) and their families/friends in the name of engagement; the impact of its parroted empathy; its unregulated pervasiveness in our culture; and the risks it poses as a possible “tool” in the mental health space. They reflect on their own past mental health crises, and posit how this technology (had it existed or been engaged with) could have easily fed their worst thoughts. Finally, thoughts on protections and regulations, and how to monitor and discuss use of these “tools” with our kids. Buckle up – deep breaths needed for this one, folks.

               

              Trigger warning: This episode contains references to suicide and suicidal ideation—listener discretion is advised. 

              If you or someone you love is dealing with these issues, please know that hope and help is available.

              Contact the 988 Suicide and Crisis Lifeline if you are experiencing mental health-related distress or are worried about a loved one who may need crisis support.

              - Call or text 988

              - Chat at 988lifeline.org 

              Connect with a trained crisis counselor. 988 is confidential, free, and available 24/7/365.

              Visit the 988 Suicide and Crisis Lifeline for more information at 988lifeline.org

               

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              Sources for this episode include:

              • Orgvue. “55% of Businesses Admit Wrong Decisions in Making Employees Redundant When Bringing AI into the Workforce.” Orgvue, 29 Apr. 2025, https://www.orgvue.com/news/55-of-businesses-admit-wrong-decisions-in-making-employees-redundant-when-bringing-ai-into-the-workforce. 
              • “Is A.I. a Bubble?” The New York Times, 27 Oct. 2025, https://www.nytimes.com/2025/10/27/briefing/is-ai-a-bubble.html. 
              • Chatterjee, Rhitu. “Their Teenage Sons Died by Suicide. Now, They Are Sounding an Alarm about AI Chatbots.” NPR, 19 Sept. 2025, https://www.npr.org/sections/shots-health-news/2025/09/19/nx-s1-5545749/ai-chatbots-safety-openai-meta-characterai-teens-suicide. 
              • “Exploring the Dangers of AI in Mental Health Care.” Stanford Institute for Human-Centered Artificial Intelligence (HAI), https://hai.stanford.edu/news/exploring-the-dangers-of-ai-in-mental-health-care. 
              • Trachman, Susan B. “The Hidden Dangers of AI-Driven Mental Health Care.” Psychology Today, 2 Jan. 2026, https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/its-not-just-in-your-head/202601/the-hidden-dangers-of-ai-driven-mental-health-care. 
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                • 1 hr 15 min
                • 73. HYPERFOCUS BONUS: Everything had gone wrong in the O’Kayvious house

                  In this week’s much delayed Hyperfocus Bonus, Esme is out with a stomach bug, and Marcus details his heroic efforts tending to his sickly wife and daughter. He also proposes a simple solution for freeing up some of the federal funding needed to create a better health care system.

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                  • 21 min
                  • 72. What We’re Looking Forward to in 2026

                    While the future is unknown, one thing seems pretty clear - 2026 is going to be a weird, wild, and, quite possibly, very stupid year. To help them manage their own anxious feelings about the near future, Marcus and Esme decided to practice some “positive anticipation” strategies in an effort to have some things to look forward to in 2026. They also share some tips and tricks that can help you identify your own list of things to look forward to this year. 

                     

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                    Sources for this episode include:

                    • Vilhauer, Jennice. “Finding Joy: How Positive Anticipation Boosts Your Happiness.” Psychology Today, 25 Oct. 2024, https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/living-forward/202405/finding-joy-how-positive-anticipation-boosts-your-happiness. 
                    • Vilhauer, Jennice. “Finding Joy: How Positive Anticipation Boosts Your Happiness.” Psychology Today, 25 Oct. 2024, https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/living-forward/202405/finding-joy-how-positive-anticipation-boosts-your-happiness. 
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                      • 1 hr 2 min
                      • 71. Gratitude Revisited

                        In this week's episode, Marcus and Esme celebrate the holiday season by replaying a holiday -themed fan favorite from earlier in the year (episode 9: Gratitude, but not in a woo-woo kind of way). They also share some updates and issue a few corrections related to last Friday’s episode. Are the updates related to biker-gang activity in Delco during the 70s? There’s only one way to find out.

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                        • 1 hr 22 min
                        • 70. HYPERFOCUS BONUS: These (Movies) Go to 11

                          In this week’s Hyperfocus Bonus, Marcus and Esme pay tribute to Rob Reiner. They discuss how unfortunate it is that we often don’t take time to appreciate the impact some artists have on us while they’re still alive, and they reflect upon how the peak of Reiner’s career aligned so perfectly with their formative years. 

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                          • 40 min
                          • 69. Movie Night: Punch-Drunk Love

                            It’s time for another Movie Night! Marcus and Esme, having recently rewatched the romantic-ish comedy Punch-Drunk Love (2002), sit down to discuss its depiction of mental illness and social anxiety. They also attempt to answer the question, “What happens when a fancy pants director (Paul Thomas Anderson – Magnolia, There Will Be Blood, One Battle After Another) joins forces with an actor (Adam Sandler) who, at the time, seemed better suited to roles that required him to scream gibberish at Bradley Whitford and get into a fist fight with Bob Barker?” Not to give too much away, but . . . the answer is a really good depiction of what it feels like to live with chronic anxiety.

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                            • 1 hr 29 min
                            • 68. HYPERFOCUS BONUS: A Magical Infestation and More Sanity Saving Content

                              In this week’s Hyperfocus Bonus, Marcus and Esme bemoan the time management and merchandising requirements imposed upon them by a seasonal decorative item. Marcus explains how having a BA in English often interferes with one’s ability to just enjoy things, and Esme shares a few more examples of sanity-saving content she turns to when the news gets too heavy.

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                              • 33 min
                              • 67. The Benefits of Being Weird

                                In this week's episode, Marcus and Esme revisit the male loneliness epidemic from a very unique angle. What if men didn’t have to choose between “traditional” and “positive” masculinity. What if the solution to developing a healthy identity is to simply be . . . weird? From the dangers of the manosphere to the radicalization path algorithms push young men down, they explore why weirdness—unique passions, abilities, and character traits—can be a powerful shield. Backed by science, creativity research, and even relationship studies, Marcus and Esme explore how being different isn’t a drawback but a strength. And yes, they’ll talk about why embracing weirdness doesn’t mean giving up on human connection.

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                                Sources for this episode include:

                                • Karlton Jahmal. “I’ve Seen Friends and Family Members Get Swooped Up by the Manosphere, and As a Liberal Man, I Hate It but See the Allure.” BuzzFeed, 3 Dec. 2025, https://www.buzzfeed.com/karltonjahmal/how-the-manosphere-seduces-men. 
                                • Khazan, Olga. “The Perks of Being a Weirdo: How Not Fitting In Can Lead to Creative Thinking.” The Atlantic, Apr. 2020, www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2020/04/the-perks-of-being-a-weirdo/606778/. 
                                • Hornsey, Matthew J., Richard Wellauer, Jason C. McIntyre, and Fiona Kate Barlow. “A Critical Test of the Assumption That Men Prefer Conformist Women and Women Prefer Nonconformist Men.” Personality and Social Psychology Bulletin, vol. 41, no. 6, June 2015, pp. 755–768. SAGE Publications, doi:10.1177/0146167215577366.
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                                  1 hr 8 min

                                About Crazy Together

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                                If you’re sick and tired of listening to the negative talk track playing in your head, then why not listen to us instead? We are Marcus and Esme O’Kayvius (not our real names), a married, neurodivergent couple with a lot of experience managing our own mental health issues while raising a daughter and navigating the dystopic hellscape that is corporate America. Join us each week as we discuss trending mental health issues and explore how they impact our health and wellness. We’ll also examine the myths and misconceptions associated with mental health and what we can do about them.