In the United States, we're dealing with a tidal wave shift in our experience of democracy. So, what do we do about that? Is there a way to deal with it all in an active and still spiritual way? Jeremy David Engels talks with Jim about his book, On Mindful Democracy. Can we reimagine democracy in a way that brings us together rather than tears us apart? How do we react when we face hatred? Democracy is something that we can experience and create everyday with everyone. Maybe even in moments of conflict like this one, the conditions for transformation are also present.

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