Cross-border Tax Talks

Doug McHoney (PwC’s International Tax Services Global Leader) is joined by Pat Brown, an International Tax Partner and Co-Leader of PwC’s Washington National Tax Services practice. Pat previously served as the US Treasury’s Associate International Tax Counsel and has been a frequent guest on the podcast. Doug and Pat discuss the legislative and international tax implications of the 'One Big Beautiful Bill', including its procedural path through US Congress under budget reconciliation, and its implications for both domestic and cross-border taxpayers. They explore the bill’s temporary business provisions, including TCJA 'orphan' fixes, and the evolving treatment of research expenses, bonus depreciation, and interest deductions. A major focus is Section 899—dubbed the 'super BEAT'—which targets foreign digital services taxes (DSTs), diverted profits taxes (DPTs), and Pillar Two’s undertaxed profits rule (UTPR) with steep retaliatory measures. They also analyze the international negotiations around UTPR exemptions, the impact on treaty obligations, and the ongoing debate over treatment of US tax credits—particularly the R&D credit—under global minimum tax rules. 

Doug McHoney (PwC’s International Tax Services Global Leader) is joined by Jenny Chong, Shanghai-based International Tax Partner and PwC’s Asia-Pacific International Tax Services Leader. Doug and Jenny discuss the structure and enforcement of China’s international tax regime, including corporate tax rates, incentives, CFC rules, and foreign tax credits. They examine the complexities of indirect stock transfer rules, audit trends, and beneficial ownership requirements. The conversation turns to Pillar Two, where Jenny outlines how Chinese multinationals are preparing despite a lack of formal adoption. They also explore the implications of potential termination of the US-China tax treaty and the resurgence of tariffs. Jenny shares how Chinese companies are adapting to compliance burdens and regulatory uncertainty amidst global tax and trade tensions. 

Doug McHoney (PwC’s International Tax Services Global Leader) is joined by Leo Johnson, lecturer at Oxford University’s Smith School of Enterprise and the Environment. Leo is also co-founder of the advisory firm Sustainable Finance, where he chairs the Advisory Council, and previously worked at the World Bank. Known for presenting the BBC series on megatrends and innovation. Leo brings unique insight into organizational behavior, neuroscience, and purposeful leadership. 

Doug and Leo discuss organizational inertia, transformation resistance, and how neuroscience and behavioral science explain our resistance to change—even amid crises like climate change, geopolitical turmoil, and economic stress. They explore how professionals, including those in international tax, can overcome ‘learned helplessness’ and avoid burnout by embracing purpose, agency, and connectedness. Leo introduces the concept of behavioral personas within organizations—catalysts, silent rebels, workhorses, and sustaining innovators—and emphasizes the need for authentic engagement and collaboration to drive meaningful change. 

Doug McHoney (PwC’s International Tax Services Global Leader) is joined by Professor Itai Grinberg, a faculty member at Georgetown University Law Center and a former Deputy Assistant Secretary at the US Treasury Department during the Biden administration. In that role, Itai served as the United States' lead negotiator for the global corporate minimum tax initiative. Doug and Itai discuss the behind-the-scenes history of Pillar Two from the US perspective, exploring its policy rationale, global negotiations, and shifting political dynamics. The conversation begins with how Itai’s got his role at Treasury and builds a detailed timeline tracing the Biden administration’s early support for global minimum tax rules through the 2021 G7 agreement and the development of the Under-Taxed Profits Rule (UTPR). They also delve into the impact of the Build Back Better legislation which was not enacted, the rationale behind the US safe harbor under UTPR, international political tensions including Brexit and US-China relations, and the implications of the April 2025 Trump executive order. The episode closes with reflections on the OECD Inclusive Framework’s future and whether multinational enterprises can expect a workable consensus moving forward. 

Doug McHoney (PwC’s International Tax Services Global Leader) is joined by Arne Schnitger, a Berlin-based International Tax Partner at PwC Germany and co-host of the German-language tax podcast “Frisch Serviert.” Arne previously served in the German Ministry of Finance and brings deep insight into both domestic and cross-border policy developments. Doug and Arne discuss Germany’s evolving corporate tax landscape, including potential rate reductions, simplification initiatives, and the implications of recent coalition negotiations. They dive into Germany’s controlled foreign corporation (CFC) regime, explore the mechanics of the constitutional ‘German debt brake,’ and unpack recent developments surrounding Pillar Two. The conversation highlights the intersection of German and US tax policy, the ongoing tension between multilateralism and unilateral measures, and the administrative and technical challenges multinationals face under the global minimum tax framework. They also examine prospects for EU-level simplification and the future of long-standing anti-avoidance measures in light of Pillar Two implementation. 

Doug McHoney (PwC’s International Tax Services Global Leader) is joined by Tom Patten, a London-based US International Tax Partner at PwC. Tom focuses on inbound investment into the U.S. and returns to the podcast for a timely discussion on Sections 891 and 899, two lesser-known but increasingly important provisions in the international tax landscape.  Doug and Tom discuss the resurgence of Section 891 in light of a January 2025 executive order that directs Treasury to identify discriminatory or extraterritorial foreign taxes. They cover how Section 891 operates, potential implications for non-US citizens, and its interaction with treaties. The episode then turns to proposed Section 899 and a new House proposal aimed at modifying the base erosion and anti-abuse tax (BEAT). Tom and Doug examine how these retaliatory measures differ, overlap, and might evolve. They close with practical advice for multinational taxpayers navigating an uncertain legislative environment and the future of Pillar Two negotiations. 

Doug McHoney (PwC’s International Tax Services Global Leader) is joined by Dr. Romero Tavares, PwC Brazil’s International Tax Leader and a professor of international tax law in São Paulo. Doug and Romero discuss the increasing intersection between Brazil’s international tax policy and global trade dynamics, including the effects of recent US executive orders. They cover Brazil’s high-tax corporate environment, its historically aggressive CFC-like full inclusion regime, and the country’s rapid adoption of a qualified domestic minimum top-up tax (QDMTT). The conversation explores the political and policy rationale behind these moves, the anticipated redesign of Brazil’s CFC regime, and the operational challenges multinationals face with the new OECD-aligned transfer pricing rules. Romero also breaks down Brazil’s massive indirect tax reform and the country’s potential shift to more internationally-aligned tax norms, while questioning the long-term viability of the undertaxed profits rule (UTPR) and Pillar Two’s durability under changing geopolitical winds. 

Doug McHoney (PwC’s International Tax Services Global Leader) is joined by Dr. Alexis Crow, Partner and Chief Economist at PwC US. Before joining PwC, Dr. Crow taught at the London School of Economics. Doug and Alexis discuss the intersection of global macroeconomics, geopolitics, and international tax policy in a shifting global landscape. They break down the impact of the Trump administration’s latest tariffs on Canada and Mexico, inflationary pressures, interest rates, and the fiscal cliff facing the US. 

Doug and Alexis explore how the geopolitical climate is shaping international trade, the potential winners and losers of increased tariffs, and the broader economic implications of Trump 2.0. They also analyze regional macroeconomic trends, from China’s economic resilience and India's manufacturing rise to Europe's fiscal strategies and Latin America’s economic experiments. Lastly, they discuss how businesses—particularly multinationals—should be preparing for upcoming policy shifts and economic disruptions. 

Doug McHoney (PwC’s International Tax Services Global Leader) is joined by Kristin Bohl, a Partner in PwC’s Customs and International Trade Practice. Kristin previously served as a judicial law clerk at the U.S. Court of International Trade. Doug and Kristin discuss the rapidly evolving trade and tariff landscape, focusing on the recent executive orders imposing new tariffs on Canada, Mexico, and China under the ‘America First’ trade policy. They break down the impact of tariffs on industries such as automotive, pharmaceuticals, retail, and technology, and cover strategies that businesses can deploy to mitigate costs. Key topics include the authority of the US President to impose tariffs, the role of trade deficits in tariff policy, and the use of tariffs as a foreign policy tool. They also explore potential retaliatory measures from US trading partners, the impact on global supply chains, and short to long-term strategies for businesses to adapt to the new tariff regime. 

Doug McHoney (PwC’s International Tax Services Global Leader) is joined by Pat Brown, an International Tax Partner and Co-Leader of PwC’s Washington National Tax Services practice. Together, they unpack the state of US corporate tax policy in 2025, analyzing how regulatory, legislative, and geopolitical forces could shape the next era of taxation. Doug and Pat dissect the final regulations issued in the closing days of the Biden administration, including the controversial disregarded payment loss (DPL) regulations, finalized and proposed digital content and cloud sourcing rules, and updates on corporate basis-shifting transactions. With a new administration in power, they explore whether these rules will stand, be modified, or be repealed entirely—and what this means for business certainty and planning. The conversation then pivots to legislative challenges, as the expiration of key provisions from the 2017 Tax Cuts and Jobs Act (TCJA) creates a ticking time bomb for tax policy.  Finally, they tackle the international tax front, where the US f administration responds to the OECD’s Pillar Two and potential digital services tax (DST) retaliation under new proposals like Section 899.