In this episode, Sara and Mel sit down with pastor Noland Gilmore (who is also Sara's husband) to ask some raw and unfiltered questions about post-pandemic church from the other side of the pulpit.

In this episode, Sara + Mel hit on a tender spot for both of them in post pandemic church. Join us in this honest conversation in navigating unique challenges to the church in these days where it is more common to tear her down than to build her up.

In Episode 11, Sara + Mel talk practically about what it looks like to love your actual neighbors. Since both Sara + Mel have moved about 15 times between them— they talk about what has meant the most in their own transitions and what they’ve learned along the way.

In this episode, Sara + Mel discuss all things joy:

Remember it? What is it? How can we as people of Jesus hold the good tensions of suffering and joy together in this critical time? They top it off with some lighthearted non-Jesus joy picks and recommendations for creating wider margins. 

In this bonus prequel to Season 2, our friend Wynne Elder — the reason we know each other — turns the tables and interviews us about the show, what Season 1 was like, and what to expect from Season 2.

In this final episode for Season 1, Sara + Mel land this wedgie plane on the subject of rest in a culture that brags about running on exhaustive fumes.

In this episode, Sara and Mel sit with Nellie Beall, a Malaysian immigrant living in the Ozark mountains of Northwest Arkansas since 2001. We discuss her challenges of moving here as a young woman alone, what a journey of embracing two cultures looks like, and how, until recently, she has felt ‘other’ in the racial discussions in the US being carried out mostly in black and white.

In this episode, Sara and Mel dive into all things 'Merica. She’s temperamental. Sinful. Awesome. Joyful. Beautiful. An A-hole sometimes. And she’s ours: we are humbled to call her home.

In episode 5, Sara and Mel get real (uncomfortable) about smart phones: do we own them...or are they owning us? A practical discussion about where we are and a gut check and hope for stewarding our lives better.

Sara and Mel discuss how learning to regulate ourselves during conflict is a learned skill, what to do when we go ‘off line’ during conversations and how we can begin to help others once we begin to practice regulation for ourselves.