Curious Creatures

By Lol Tolhurst & Budgie

Hosts Lol Tolhurst (The Cure) and Budgie (Siouxsie and the Banshees) explore post punk's enduring legacy and contemporary relevance. Lol and Budgie welcome luminaries from all walks of life for reveal... more

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October 16, 2023 Celeste Bell Pt. 2: The Do-It-Yourself World of X-Ray Spex
Exploding Suburban Myths
Feminism, Formica and Friends
Watch the curtains twitch for a brand-new switch
Another music from a different day-glo kitchen
Myriad, misogynistic, moustachioed men
GermFree Adolescents!
Poly’s lyrics reach out across time
Don’t touch me please I can’t take the wants and needs!
Poly sings Love songs and laments for the voiceless ones
New Yorks a-Go-go!
A formative experience for Poly and the boys
Two gigs a night made a mind changing noise
X-Ray Spex were the first punks to play the USA
CBGBs crowd a million times ruder than Erics in their day

Exhaustion and Tears in The Whiskey a-Go-go!
It wasn’t that Poly had to catch up with the World
‘Twas the World had to catch up with Poly.
Big Paul’s drumming was Big and complete
Poly often sang acapella to the beat
High Energy Rock & Roll!
Poly also sang each instrument’s part
And produced the Music and created the Art
50’s Do-Wop n’ Blues had an influential hand
In Poly’s creative use of the band
Poly’s Passions!
Punk’s DIY Ethic was a necessary tool
Finance was fickle and Poly was no fool
Necessity was always the Mother of Invention
Poly’s Grandmother Understood!
She was never going to be a doctor - but if she’d wanted to she could
She was Always going to be a creator - and so often misunderstood
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Respect: Poly Styrene (Marianne Joan Elliott-Said: 3 July 1957 – 25 April 2011)
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August 31, 2023 Celeste Bell Pt. 1: The Eccentricity of Everyday People’
The Day The World Turned Day-Glo
Celeste made a Film about her Mum Poly Styrene
Six years in the Making ‘Twas A Labour of Love
Clearing Permissions like Pulling Hen’s Teeth
We Share the Frustration, the Push and the Shove
GermFree Adolescents!
Poly Adored Señor Salvador Dali
His Port Lligat studio a Pilgrimage Place
Young Lol’s French Girlfriend paraded her cat
A cat on a lead with a smile on it’s face
I Am a Cliché!
Valuable Time Made a Difference
Personal Real and True
Honest and Believable Felt Real to Lol
Honesty Helped Celeste find Her Way

Age!
Poly, Lol and Budgie – 1950’s Varieties
Hold valuable insight of Era and Times
Of Austere 70’s and all Notorieties
Goths on The Tube and Tory Crimes
Identity!
Courting Controversy and Cancel Culture
An Early Adopter of Media and Tech
Poly’s X-Ray Spex gave the Pop world a Rupture
X-Ray Spex caused a Pain in the Neck
I Am a Poseur!
The DIY Spirit of Punk for Celeste
Independent Rebellious Thinking
To a Conformist Era nothing more than a Pest
Punk Self Expression was Sinking
Oh Bondage Up Yours!
British Journalism made Personal Attacks
Made Her Life a Difficult Role
It wasn’t Cool to be Polite to the Hacks
Poly was a Sensitive Soul
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Respect: Poly Styrene (Marianne Joan Elliott-Said: 3 July 1957 – 25 April 2011)
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37min
August 24, 2023 Pt. 2: Bethany Cosentino Just Says Fuck It
Who’s That Girl?
Concentric Circles and Avoiding Repetition
When The World Shutdown
The Questioning Began
Bethany had a Life Changing Awakening
On-Screen-Only Relationships!
Ice-Cold Bitch and Her July Jacket
Bethany has some Secret Tea to Spill!
Be Whatever You Want to Be!
What’s Through Your Keyhole?

Balancing Real Relationships!
Space, Space, Space, and More Space!
Professional Relationships – The Little Things become Mountains
How Often do You Change your Socks?
We Are Family – a Mental Family!
Re-Inventing the Wheel!
Exciting to Rethink the Live Experience
Arpeggios and Jingle Jangle
The Big Scream is The Point
Bethany Thinks on her Toes!
What’s On Your Mind?
Talking to The Fearful Voice
Letting Go of The Extremes
Nothing to be Done and Everything will be Done
It’s All so Simple – Just Let Go!
And The Sound of Wedding Bells!!
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Respect: Donald Buchla (April 17, 1937 – September 14, 2016)
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35min
August 17, 2023 Bethany Cosentino Pt. 1: There’s a Million Freaks on the Streets of Los Angeles’
How Much do you Do in Your car?
Bethany lives in Her car - Bethany Loves LA!
Lol loves LA too – LA has always looked after him
Budgie thinks LA must love him too
LA Keeps Calling him Back!
Rent-A-Wreck!
Budgie rents his first car in LA!
Pick ‘n Mix of Environments
Lol wants a Bolt Hole in the Desert
Music was In the Stars for Bethany as a Young Punk!

Bob The Dude Around Town!
Catching up with The Thing!
Gathering The Best Coast Buzz
Digging Down beneath the Dark Underbelly of LA
Among The Ghosts of Creative Legacies
Becoming The Band until we Disappear!
Bethany and All the External Noise
Reclaiming Bethany – Bringing back, ‘Shame on You!’
Scary to Put Yourself Out There!
99% is positive - 1% negative is a killer!
The Vulnerable Desires!
Bethany lets her old Character Go
Bethany Creates a Cocoon to Create
Anticipation and Expectation?
Bethany is Doing it For Herself!
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Respect: Jim Morrison (December 8, 1943 – July 3, 1971)
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Twitter: @LolBudgieJCKNF
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Curious Creatures is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. For more of the best music storytelling follow @DoubleElvis on Instagram or search Double Elvis in your podcast app.
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40min
August 10, 2023 Jacknife Lee Pt. 3: The Transformation of Horror to Beauty
Can AI make a Hit Record?
Drummers talk about anything but Drumming
Two of the Singers on Los Angeles are Drummers
All we got to do is Act Naturally
Things the Industry didn’t Understand
Will new Technology Change Music Appreciation?
More Means More!
We love and Embrace Computers
We love and Embrace Individuality
We love and Embrace Cohesive Collaboration
Now Cue the Music!

Good Food and A Donut!
Jacknife describes his Daily Process
Everybody’s a Drummer – The International Conversation
What’s Going On with Shoes and Feet?!
Is my One the same as Your One?
Robert Dresses Below the Waist
Do we ever look at the Back of our Head?
Who do you trust to Dress You?
Jacknife Never looks at Himself
We must Think in 3D!
We Got to Move!
Isaac Brock sings at 7mph
Jacknife Runs along in Time
Lol spins for more than 30 minutes
Budgie cycles the whole of Berlin (almost!)
All because we Listen to Los Angeles!!
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Respect: William MacArthur ‘Billy’ Mackenzie (27 March 1957 – 22 January 1997)
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26min
August 03, 2023 Jacknife Lee Pt. 2: Keeping 1000 Lights on for All
Neil Diamond put Stones in Jacknife’s shoes
Musicians with No Stations - Anyone can do Anything
Jacknife loves The Cure and The Banshees and Drums
(We’re off to a Good Start!)
Artists willing to Alienate - to do what they want!
The Gender Change Box – Expanding the Arsenal!
Documenting Discovery – Being a Band - Not a Brand
The Cure’s 1st album was their live setlist
On 17 Seconds they swapped instruments - No set formula
Discussion is healthy but Discussion takes time!

Vocalists are Tricky!
Musicians as Tightrope walkers – Without Safety nets
Risks can be Creative but not for Careers!
Good bands fight to Discover – Take something small and Enlarge!
Robert Smith focussed everyone by saying, ‘this will be the Last Time.’
Fragility / Self-hatred / Being weird
Pornography almost killed The Cure but reanimated them.
Club Smith or Club Tolhurst, had Simon Gallup singing Kate Bush
Doing It Like the First Time!
Our New album - Fresh and Exciting!
Guest vocalists working Outside comfort Zones
Bobby Gillespie and James Murphy at Home - Arrow in Topanga
New bands are mostly missing the drummer’s personality
(We’re off to a Good End!)
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Respect: Jane Birkin (December 1946 – July 2023)
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Budgie:
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Twitter: @TuWhit2whoo
Instagram: @budgie646
Lol Tolhurst x Budgie x Jacknife Lee
Facebook: @loltolhurstxbudgiexjacknifelee
Twitter: @LolBudgieJCKNF
Instagram: @lolxbudgiexjacknifelee
Curious Creatures is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. For more of the best music storytelling follow @DoubleElvis on Instagram or search Double Elvis in your podcast app.
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35min
July 27, 2023 Jacknife Lee Pt. 1: The Stroke of True Genius
Jacknife never remembers the big moments.
Q. Why are we so busy? A. We have an album coming out!
Blatant Plug: Los Angeles: The Album: November 3rd!
Jacknife enjoys teams but was never a joiner
Overcome by FOMO - The pandemic begat TIME!
Two Drummers and a Producer - Two Turntables and a Microphone
Budgie met Jacknife in Berlin on Bono’s no expense spared book tour
Lol toured his book in South America to Arequipa in Peru.
Q. Does Bono do impersonations? A. Yes, a very dark Rupert Murdoch
Robert impersonated Lol and Lol did a great Robert
Everyone close to Robert, became Robert!
Q. Affectation or affection for Siouxsie in the Banshees? A.????
Young Bob reinvented Regal zone on ‘So It Goes’
Bon mots take hold on the road
An unusual dynamic - being together all the time
Understanding people and personalities
Us against the world – All for One and One for All!
Parts of the world Lol liked and the Jilted teenage girlfriend
As you get older, you better understand your ego
Getting over the caricatures - writing the story
making peace with life - preventing strange characters taking over
Q. The Real Stroke of Genius? – A. Begin Today with a Clean Slate!
The Job of the Musician is to Discover – Anon.

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Respect: Sinéad O’Connor (December 1966 – July 2023)
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Twitter: @LolBudgieJCKNF
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36min
July 20, 2023 Wayne Hussey Pt. 2: Panic In Detroit!
Let me in - I’m in the band!
It goes like this:
Lol - Newcastle Holiday Inn – Sauna – Towel – Door – Fire Escape – Reception – Room-Key!
Wayne - Bristol - Liverpool - Leeds – London – California – Brazil – Love - 20 Years!
Lol – California – Home - 30 Years Ago - Home is Where the Ticker Tocks .
The Circus was Excitement when we Moved from where we Started
In a band it’s simpler to do what we do and Live anywhere

Alan Vega a lonely man and a stranger in a strange land
Budgie ran a Berlin Red Light and received a Berlin mouthful
Lol feels more American than Americans
Lean American knowledge – makes Lol a man without a history or memory
Quiet riot and Slade’s Unique spelling
Lol saw Ringo Starr play in LA.
Edgar Winter looks how Lol’s God looks!
Budgie and the Glitter Band Beats
First Money from music - Go buy a Studio
T.Rex - Electric Warrior was THE album for Lol, Wayne and Budgie
A copy of Electric Warrior said, ‘We’re definitely friends!’
Lol had a delusion of Mikey Finn Stardom
I’m a Howling Wolf said Marc Bolan
lots of love says, Wayne x
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Respect: Mickey Finn (3 June 1947 – 11 January 2003)
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25min
July 13, 2023 Wayne Hussey Pt. 1: Mr Pussy and the Murdered Melon mystery?
Budgie plays his Big Bass Harp
The Cult and Subbuteo keep everyone Sharp
Introducing a Liverpool theme
You’ll Never Walk Alone, now choose your team!

Lol delivered Newspapers for 25 Bob
Delivering milk was Wayne’s other Job
The Beeb Top 40 on Sundays recorded
5 Pounds a week a new album afforded
David K Jones had a Brian Connolly haircut
Young Budgie’s Skinhead made the Headmaster Tut!
Banshees and Cure played soccer together
The Cure played the crew but it made Heavy weather!
Wayne played for Charity and Drew with the Frankies
Nasher the Smasher drew Coronation Street hankies!
Wayne and Budgie played in a band
It lasted two days and then they were canned
Wayne with Pete Burns in Dead or Alive
Built like a builder - Pete tolerated no Jive
‘Gimme Dat Harp Boy’
Budgie blows the Whistle Test intro
Wayne and Lol speechless, ‘He plays like a Pro!’
Lol first met Wayne in the 80’s euphoria
saw the Mission play a blinder at London’s Astoria
And on into the sunrise of a new friendship’s Gloria!
Whispering Bob Harris and Annie Nightingale hosting
Morning already? Imaginary boys toasting
Sugarcubes’ Einar and Bob had a Ruckus?
The Zillow in Germany was it playful then serious?
Wayne once lived in the Columbia Hotel
Budgie stayed at One Queensway for a similar spell
Wayne’s Solo book tour - music and reading
Lol toured Chuck Berry style with local Cure-heads leading
Chile, and Peru where the Cure’s pick-up glistens
Pornography is one of Wayne’s favourite listens
Albie Singer was Wayne’s hotel pseudonym
Budgie was Chad Valley and Lol, Mr Lazlo
When Wayne asked reception, Hey what room am I in?
The room for Mr Pussy must be Wayne’s alter-Ego
Turned out Mr Pussy was the room Johnny Lydon was in!
‘Delusions of Grandeur’

Lol spends 4 months at the Beverly Hills 4 Seasons
Wayne drives around strange places on tour in New Zealand
Onwards to Moscow or was it Rio or Bangkok?
Lol used a matchbox to find his hotel
Budgie did too but which matchbox is it?
It’s Spinal Tap again!
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Respect: Captain Beefheart - (Don Van Vliet: January 15, 1941 - December 17, 2010)
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37min
July 06, 2023 Fat Mike Pt. 2: New Drumheads, Boiled Strings and Burgundy Velvet Panties!
Like Indian musicians, we tuned together
Stroboscopic Tuners, revealed that we never
Played a gig in Concert pitch - whatever.
New drumheads were stolen
Boiled bass strings saved money
Pitch Pipes were our first harmonicas
Riding White Swans
We were Kids of the Revolution
Thank the gods for glam and David Bowie

The Sweet at the I-Beam and their 3-part harmonies
Deep Purple and The Beach Boys combined
That a good catchy song makes a band worth it’s char-monies.
Took NOFX a decade to find
Buddy Holly died the day that Lol was born
Lol became Big Bopper a natural showstopper
Busby Berkeley twirled, and Budgie sought ‘em!
Beatles for Sale and Budgie bought ‘em!
The Captain was Awesome in the Village of The Damned
Lol and Mikey D said, ‘Should we call on Rat’s Mum?’
NOFX had 10 years of peace until Covid
Mike had No music as a kid
No smoking behind the bike sheds
No Drugs, no Pot, no Meth heads
Outsiders for life – it’s a Gas!

Mike? Still a punk at his High-School reunion?
Retirement? - No way!
Mike is living the dream again!
Lol’s American Passport - Berlin black shirt and round glasses - Beatles in Hamburg
10,000 hours - 16 chords - Ringo’s Drumstick - Mike Loves 8 times
Oasis plagiarism - Sleaford Modism - Burgundy Velvet Underwear!!!!!
Lol went to Nashville - gave Johnny Cash a No-no
Fishbowl studio tour guides, Flea and Fred a Go-go

What a Lovely Fellow Mike is!
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Respect: Buddy Holly (September 7th, 1936 – February 3rd, 1959)
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Budgie:
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Twitter: @TuWhit2whoo
Instagram: @budgie646
Curious Creatures is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. For more of the best music storytelling follow @DoubleElvis on Instagram or search Double Elvis in your podcast app.
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