Curious Creatures

Curious Creatures

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Curious Creatures episodes

  • Fat Mike Pt. 1: Fat Mike Reveals His Underwear Live on Radio!!

    My 1st is in Punk but Never in Junk

    My 2nd is in Museum but never in Mausoleum 

    My 3rd is a Shop of Tartan punk Underwear 

    My 4TH is Shock of Electric Blue Head Hair

     

    Who am I?

     

    Lol has the stuff the Hall of Fame Loves 

    Stan Laurel jokes follow Budgie like Doves

    Lol sounds Australian? Mike’s a Bostonian! 

    We love San Francisco and the fog on The Bay

    We love the old iBeam and we love Lol’s son Gray

    The Cure and The Banshees played there in its Hey day

    Mike saw The Sweet there but we’d all gone away!

     

    Bob and Lol stayed at the Red Victorian 

    Meeting the legends and Pleasant Germanian

    The Punk scene came from Bowie’s Roots

    The Ramones and The Runaways and Doc Martins Boots

     

    Lol was 15 when he saw Suzi Quatro 

    Then Killing Joke told him to go to America 

    Fat Mike’s parents didn’t listen to Music 

    Mike became a Germ Free Adolescent for Poly Styrene 

     

    My 1st is in X-Ray Spex and also in Ozzy 

    My 2nd is in Pat Smear who lent them a Cozzy 

    My 3rd is in Alice Bag and also in Darby Crash

    My 4th is in NoFX and also in Graveyard Smash

     

    What am I?

     

    Budgie is all about the Drums

    It’s always all about the drums 

    Adam and the Ants - The Glitter band had amazing drums 

    Adam asked Lol and Lol said, “I’m in the Cure so it’s okay.” 

    Lol wears white Sox!

    So he didn’t get beat up at the Missing Persons gig. (who wrote this?)

     

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    Respect: Marianne Joan Elliott-Said (3 July 1957 – 25 April 2011) Poly Styrene

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    29 min
  • Curious Questions: No Seats at The Dream Show!

    Sad story for our friend in Turkey but we remain positive for a good end.


    Lol and Budgie hopped with Joy to see the Kodo drummers in concert

    Budgie met Kodo Principal Leonard Eto via prog rock legend Hoppy Kamiyama

    Leo and Budgie drummed and Hoppy vibed with Chaos tapes and the Hai! album was born


    In 1977 The Clash drummer Nicky ‘Topper’ Headon was Budgie’s inspiration! 

    Lol’s mentor Andy McBride taught him the beats of The Clash

    Kraftwerk introduced us to new sounds and the beating heart of German Industry

    Stephen Perkins was the ‘Zen Beat Master’ of Jane’s Addiction!

    And Perry Farrell was Lol’s psychedelic neighbour


    Lol liked XTC’s Terry Chambers and Stranglers sticksman Jet Black 

    Budgie dug and digs, Robert ‘Gotobed’ Grey and could have been his namesake

    Robert is older than Budgie by 6 years, 4 Months; to the day – Is it time for a party?

    And Lol ‘Stopthatnoise’ Tolhurst Agrees - Kindergarden Made Drum Monsters of us All!

    It doesn’t take much for drummer’s questions, does it?


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    Respect: Ronald Lee Wilson – (June 26 1944 – May 12 1989) The Surfaris - Wipe Out

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    17 min
  • Curious Questions: On the Buses - Film Like!

    Heavy Rotation for The Siouxsie Bus Party

    Linton Kwesi-Johnson - Forces of Victory 

    Psychedelic Furs - India

    NIN - Pretty Hate Machine


    London’s Satellite Towns

    Swingin’ - Dodgy 

    Policing the Numbskulls

    Mr Murphy with his baseball bat

    “Oi, cut it out son or your brown bread.”

    “Sorry Guv I’ll be leaving then.”


    Robert’s Red Vinyl Box

    Simon and Kate Bush’s ‘Hounds of Love’

    Club Tolhurst and Club Smith 

    Evelyn ‘Champagne’ king 

    Shits and Giggles with Iron Maiden’s 

    ‘Bring your Daughter to the Slaughter’


    Keeping the Crew Filth Happy

    AC/DC - Back in Black 

    Mötörhead - ‘Ace of Spades’

    SATB - ‘Nicotine Stain’


    The Language of the Drums.

    Budgie’s famous vocal percussion - Fireball

    Gypsy Eyes morphs into Mad Eyed Screamer

    Lol and Budgie wish upon a ‘Highway Star’

    Say Hi, to ‘Young Americans’ 

    ‘Get it On’ with T.Rex’s ‘Jeepster’!


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    Respect: Dale ‘Buffin’ Griffin - (1948 - 2016)

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    19 min
  • Hamilton Leithauser and The Stone-Deaf Soundman

    Machine Gunners’ Ear 

    No Elvis, Beatles, or The Rolling Stones in 1977 

    Bad brains, Minor Threat and Fugazi - at 14! 

    Washington DC’s 9:30 Club, The Black Cat and Washington Plaza 

    The Walkmen cometh in 2000


    Eric’s Club matinee, it’s a drive-in Saturday, lots of creativity from NYC

    In A Forest or In Dust, the Walkmen place their trust, in the Siouxsie-Bob sound, merci! 

    Bob and Lol’s brothers played music to be loud, discovering the rebel inside

    From Liverpool to Boston, no charm in the venues, guys in plaid shirts had to hide!


    More difficult today, is that fair to say? Walkmen wipe-out in London and Bath

    Salt Lake City rodeo, everyone’s a weirdo, remember roach motels and laugh!

    Young Budgie loved Winifred Atwell and the Poor people of Paris 


    The English they love you one time 

    In the biggest bed Lol gets it to rhyme!

    Reggae Chart Busters Volume 1 2 & 3


    A piano too heavy for the Barfly 

    Went through a Hole in The Wall

    Club Manchester was a bit unfriendly 

    Slim Jim and the Stray Cats, lived in squats


    Lol’s books into Manhattan 

    His son on tour Back in the van y’all 

    Tough for bands in roach motels 

    No bed and shower? then Lol’s a no show!


    Budgie loves Kid Congo and The Pink Monkey Birds – True!

    Harlem Analog in the sweet spot of a terrible idea 

    Forget to mute and blow out someone’s ear. 

    Hearing has deteriorated Machine Gunners fear.


    John McGeoch’s Melodic feedback

    The soundman was stone deaf - Lol don’t miss floor monitor days 

    Walkmen are back after a decade no tour 

    The Black flag soundman was the best first for sure!



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    Respect: Ruth Polsky (December 5, 1954 – September 7, 1986)

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    37 min
  • Kele Okereke Pt. 2: The People I Remember…

    ‘The people I remember…’
    Mutual respect, the Bloc Party had
    Kele and collaborators, what’s good and what’s bad
    Together on tour, but then things change
    Russell ‘n Kele retain musical respect 
    Musical Respect is a necessary thing 
    Banshees Guitarists, All the Young Johns
    Spizz oil and the Banshees, It’s a Family Affair 
    Kele and James Murphy and their traveling bands 
    Having kids and Touring Keep us Peter Pan style.

    Chilli Pepper pals, Prodigal Sons 
    ‘In the desert you can remember your name’
    ‘Life’s What You Make It’  
    The Cure take MTV - Budgie signs autographs ‘Down the Pub.

    ‘The Great Covid Reset’
    A Non-Touring fantasy - A new way of life?
    Touring and sleeping go hand in hand!
    Kele, wants the father-child relationship 
    Lol had none with his father 
    So, he turned it around for his own son
    Budgie’s dad was always present 
    Kele’s dad was proud and healing  
    Budgie’s dad said, “Do whatever makes you happy.” 
    Lol’s mum gave him a love of art and literature 

    Lol’s mum said - “I like the new single by The Clash”
    Fun times meeting US Campus kids – smelled like team spirit 
    ABC - The Look of Love - Money Makes the World go Round 
    Art for Art’s sake – Money for God’s sake
    British Art space receding - young artists and crew get no Support
    Feeling the Fallout of the covid years 
    Love to Kele’s family and toi-toi for the tour! 
    Life’s always a giggle with Budgie and Lol! 

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    Respect: John Prine (October 10, 1946 – April 7, 2020)
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    34 min
  • Kele Okereke Pt. 1: The Traveling Circus of Sublimated Ego

    Concentric Circles of Life and the Nightmare of Brexit
    Kele from London via Edinburgh and Liverpool 
    Budgie in France, London and Berlin
    Lol in the USA for 25 years
    Old UK market towns when the pubs are closed 
    Would anyone want a return to 70’s England?

    Out of Brussels - Nefarious reasons?
    Strawberries full of chemicals? 
    Capitalism - Free labour?
    Big Agri eats labour 

    Children pick berries - Human nature stagnates 
    Automation stealing jobs - packing our bags
    Armed response in Beverly Hills 
    Belfast’s most bombed hotel - we’re all in the Bar
    Hands up! 

    Berlin still an island with lots of space 
    Kele, Lol and Budgie went to Catholic school 
    Altar boys all, singing magi and Latin
    Teenagers rebelling against Catholic guilt 
    40 years later we have hopefully matured 

    Not normal to sublimate the ego in your 20’s
    That’s what it takes for a band to work 
    A Catch 22 – Few bands remain as first formed 
    If only The Cure had taken a break from the 4th album …
    A recipe for disaster - everyone loves a rock star, 
    staring into the abyss.

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    Respect: Joseph Heller (May 1st 1923 – December 12 1999)
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    37 min
  • Avey Tare Pt. 2: Nothing Lasts Forever - We Can’t Really Hold On To Anything

    Invisible Darlings - Fast piano  
    Harpsichord music - Gregorian chant  
    Pioneer days - with the Avant Garde 
    We needed friends - Americans are friendly! 

    Sleep? luxury - no sleep ‘til Hammersmith! 
    Steak and Shake lady - Rambling about Lions 
    Daniel’s den - Puts him in a better mood 

    Lol and Budgie - protected from the banter  
    Years of drumming makes hearing sparse! 
    Four sevens Clash! - We’re all numerologists  
    Playing each other’s instruments - in search of a tune  

    Hawkwind’s Silver Machine and 7 by 7  
    Lol & Budgie loved “In Search of Space” 
    Dik-Mik & Lemmy - hippies and punks 
    Damn Skippy – A Darker psychedelia

    Being open to change - Animal Collective’s philosophy  
    Grow and move on - Nothing lasts  
    David curious about creative Psychedelics - was Pornography Psychedelic? 
    Challenging times - But Lol’s favourite Cure album

    Budgie in a Camden Dreamhouse - Dinner in a Greek restaurant 
    The Cure as a psychedelic punk band. 
    Trout Mask Replica - Strange Days from The Doors
    Robert sings backwards at 4 am  

    Music’s a trip!

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    Respect: Lemmy Kilmister (24 December 1945 – 28 December 2015)
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    Curious Creatures is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. For more of the best music storytelling follow @DoubleElvis on Instagram or search Double Elvis in your podcast app. 

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    31 min
  • Avey Tare Pt. 1: Circuit Bending- Can you Feel it?

    Circuit Bending- Can you Feel it?
    Krautrock’s influence – Faust, Neu! and Amon Düül II 
    Budgie mimics the white noise intro of Hawkwind’s ‘Silver Machine’
    Lol moves from drums to keys and an early Apple Mac 
    The Cure still Luddites for Pornography Live  

    OMD and Echo and The Bunnymen
    Budgie gave The Bunnymen a cymbal
    Lol and Budgie and the Punk revolution
    Loose electronics, unique sounds, and improvisation
    Avey & Animal Collective bend the Yamaha DX27 like Brian Eno!

    What’s the patch Today Kids? 
    Animal Collective and Broken Flangers -The future of Music 
    Axis Bold as Love Orgasmic tape flanging!
    Is the Solina Dutch or Italian? 
    The Mirage worked with beer - The Synare Synth drum broke 

    Love and Hate In the 80’s
    AC early days in NYC - Distance and Creation 
    You could play a good tour as your profession.
    Competition’s not real. Right on!
    The Internet Ruins Everything it Touches

    Iowa City Flashback!  
    “The Devil’s loins’, says Budgie - “Half and half”, says Avey  
    Flyers in Ashville Oasis – Oklahoma, the city of Flaming Lips 
    Huge airport - No people - Deja Vu or What!?

    Mr Moog and Mr Buchla 
    “The Buchla is Goth!”, says Lol
    No Manual - Anything could happen!
    Avey took his music easel on Tour!
    Never again RTFM!

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    Respect: Robert Arthur Moog (May 23, 1934 – August 21, 2005)
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    Curious Creatures is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. For more of the best music storytelling follow @DoubleElvis on Instagram or search Double Elvis in your podcast app.

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    36 min
  • Shirley Manson: Lol & Budgie love Shirley - True!

    Wild is the Wind & Vulnerability
    Budgie is Shirley’s all-time favourite Drummer of her all-time favourite Band!
    Budgie Blushes in glorious Surround-Sound
    When Garbage played their first London show in 1995
    Budgie was moshing in the pit with Banshees’ Billy Chainsaw
    Shirley felt as overwhelmed as Budgie did by Bowie 

    Golden Years
    30 Big ones and Shirley couldn’t have dreamed it
    25 Big ones for Lol in his old LA chair
    Shirley loves Lol saying ‘Butch’ in his best Scottish accent 
    A Hard time in LA during lockdown had Shirley return to Scotland asap

    Little Red Corvette
    Lol and Budgie dreamed of driving - Shirley drives electric dreams
    Now all is Zen behind the wheel - Saving the Rage for the Stage
    Shirley was bullied as a kid - SATB helped her become Empowered!
    Lol and Shirley like Being Stupid sometimes 

    Break-Up to Make-Up 
    On Tour with The Creatures, came Budgie’s wake-up call 
    Like an old British sitcom, Lol and Budgie share similar experiences 
    Garbage had to break-up to stay together – to ignore what was being said  
    The Cure & Banshees were too young to know - a year out might have saved them. 

    Don’t Talk to Me About Love
    We talk about the C-word - Shirley wants the T-shirt!
    Leaving The Cure was like Lol leaving his family or Excommunication! 
    To understand change is not easy - such a huge part of our identity. 
    Budgie has come to know love’s changes
    Being in a band is like being married - the Pot calling the Kettle Black!

    Changes
    Shirley succinctly explains being in a band
    Relieved that the band has adjusted to her changes  
    Shirley humbled by hip surgery - a triumphant story!
    Shirley says, forget your ego - enjoy life and seize the day.
    Ringo Starr says… Up yer bum!

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    Respect: John Lennon (October 9th 1940 – December 8th 1980) ‘Instant Karma’
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    Budgie: 
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    Twitter: @TuWhit2whoo
    Instagram: @budgie646
     

    Curious Creatures is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. For more of the best music storytelling follow @DoubleElvis on Instagram or search Double Elvis in your podcast app.

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    49 min
  • Meg Myers Pt. 2: Manifesting - Liberation for Your Soul!

    Manifesting - Liberation for Your Soul!
    Changing is Challenging - Crazy and Uncomfortable 
    Letting go of everything - Accelerate the Spiritual 
    Meg finds less companionship – and a big shift in people’s attitudes
    Finding a better way – with People that heal
    Budgie experiences healing - Negating Negativity 
    As we get better, better things happen 

    Lol is Awake - Right Now!
    Meg stops to smell the flowers
    Discovers the new in familiar places to find inspiration 
    Don’t force it - Don’t plan it
    ‘Hell is other people.’ said Sartre 
    The Volcanoes of Hawaii tempted The Creatures to Feast!

    Dogs are Wizards - Cats are Bosses!
    Preparing to tour - Sad to leave the cats
    Safe and comfortable on stage  
    Things get Manifested when you’re Connected 
    In Sound and Vision Meg feels Fully Realised.

    Lol and Budgie - Keeping it Together! 
    Time to Explore - Madeira Cake - Port - Bananas - Biblical 
    Creativity comes when it wants to be Created 
    Hair as Prayer – Lol’s dream of a Mohawk on the Astral plane 
    Meditating - Downloads and Alignment 
    Meg’s Dreams are her Guides!

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    Respect: Simone de Beauvoir (9 January 1908 – 14 April 1986) "The Second Sex - 1949"

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    Check out Meg On Tour - April 17th thru’ May 24th 

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    Budgie: 
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    Twitter: @TuWhit2whoo
    Instagram: @budgie646


    Curious Creatures is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. For more of the best music storytelling follow @DoubleElvis on Instagram or search Double Elvis in your podcast app.

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    33 min

About Curious Creatures

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Hosts Lol Tolhurst (The Cure) and Budgie (Siouxsie and the Banshees) explore post punk's enduring legacy and contemporary relevance. Lol and Budgie welcome luminaries from all walks of life for…

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