Curious Creatures

I am Not the Body.
Meg found ‘Running up That Hill’ after 2nd album tour burn-out 
had an Overwhelming realization - that the Universe had her back 
36 years surviving dissociation from her body 
the change is that the challenge is now happening for her, not to her
No more people pleasing – an Evolution into a Safer space
an epiphany of self-realization. 

One Universe of Expression.  
Shutting out the opinions and expectation of others 
Difficult, intense, magical time leading to greater wisdom
Removing the armour of invention 
Tiny deaths brought release and growth 

The Id not The Ego
Released from the toxicity and trauma of childhood
Meg finds new expression of self and spirit through music 
Resisting all outside intrusions to take time to Create a safe channel.

Open to Greater Wisdom
‘When there is no me, there is more authenticity.’
Meg’s process of Evolution? - Hacking the System!
a major perspective shift, an all-knowing Higher self 
Nothing to be done and Everything will be done. 
Hmmm…. Exactly!

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Respect: Sister Rosetta Tharpe (March 20, 1915 – October 9, 1973)
"Strange Things Happening Every Day"
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Lol’s Spare HoF Statuette  
The NIN drum throne came free again
Beck’s groovy tune was keeping us sane! 
The Youngest to be in the Hall of Fame
Says, ‘Two or Two Hundred the Energy’s the same’
Bob needed convincing and nothing less 
Lol asked Trent and Trent said Yes!

TOTP not OGWT
If we didn’t do Top of The Pops someone awful would. 
Did Talvin see Budgie play an Electronic Marimba?
Ilan is a Musician and Drums his first love 
The Rhythm of Music and the Energy of Life!

More About Drums and Food!
Guitarists and singers may minimize the drums 
but a good drummer is the making of most bands 
Rhythm and Voice are what most people get.
Budgie drummed melodies and chords on the Kit

But We Do Dig Guitarists Man!
The Violin out-foxed Ilan – too strenuous to learn. 
No woodwind or Brass but now he plays the clarinet!
Budgie left France for Berlin because Toby Dammit’s shoes sounded good.
Ten Years After, and Berlin’s still, Grotty, Grimy and Grizzly 

Los Angeles is Super-efficient 
Between tours it’s cool - Before tours it’s cool – After tours it’s cool!
Lol didn’t plan to live in LA - he found Love and Acceptance 
Los Angeles is Lol’s Home Sweet Home
Budgie thought LA would be his too? 

SIR – Into The Valley!
Indicators out of Sync? - Drummers needing Therapy?
Taiko and Dancing? - Lol 3rd Act Lessons? 
Budgie and Leo’s O’Daiko? - Let the Sticks do the Talking?
Lol and Budgie want Roland Taikos to Dance with – Non-Dancing-Dancing! 

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Respect: Alvin Lee (1944 – 2013) ‘Ten Years After’
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When not on tour Ilan is at his mixing desk
No exercise for young Lol - now he loves the gym 
The Cure main man does not - (Unless he pumps at night)
Lol was a man of extremes - Smoking was his hardest stop 
Budgie sent a taxi for his ciggies - and sometimes ate a Porky-Pie 
(Or was that his drum co.?) No gaffe tape on Budgie’s drums

Instantaneous?
Budgie and Lol hear their twisted addled brains 
Will Budgie live in Lols garage?
Jimmy Page told Pearl he’s too friggin’ loud! 
Budgie and the tricks of The Creatures

Russian Dragon?
Illan relives the Moment of Terror when his IEMs fell out.
It’s time to change when Smoke and Mirrors obscure all
Ilan’s drum kit disappears in smoke – where does he go? 
Smoke and strobes transport Ilan.

Drummers Corner:  
Ilan is right handed but he plays the hi-hat leftie 
Reggae showed Budgie a different drum style 

Titilating Titbits:
Ilan loves Stewart Copeland’s mix of rock and reggae
Lol plays to the voices in his head
Budgie only sings when the extractor fan is in his key. 
Ilans toothbrush goes from major to minor.
Doesn’t Yours? 

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Respect: Jaki Liebezeit (26 May 1938– 22 January 2017) CAN
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The first time may be exciting, but it sucks the life out of everything.
It's the druggist’s dilemma - missing stuff when young 
Lush stopped and Everything changed
It's good the world changed too. 

Early 90’s Game Changers 
Life without a safety net, no gold watch
Lol found his Inner Chuck Berry in South America 
Miki Liked that and Budgie’s drumming
The Cure and The Banshees emerged from an Innocent Time 

Gilbert and George v Lol and Budgie
Drinking with The Wankers at 5am
From Whitechapel to Soho
Brit Pop was a marketing construct.

Elastica’s difficult 2nd album took them to France  
Siouxsie and Budgie’s house for inspirational tea
There should be a Book – Book Events are Cool 
People always ask the question that isn't a question 

Miki wasn't part of any club's elite
Who’d want to be a member of the club that would have us as a member? 
Miki felt humiliated amongst the paraphernalia of professional drug takers 
Miki was not good with drugs – a weeping-jello-mess-in-crisis in the corner 
Lol backed off from it – a blessing in disguise.

Drugs took away a lot of personalities, all looking for a good time 
Peer Pressure - You’re either built for it or you’re not. 
The High was a Low on so many levels 
Blimey! - We could talk forever! 
Did Budgie inhale? 

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Respect: Nico – (1938 – 1988) ‘Chelsea Girl’
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Miki as Unsettled global traveller
Miki as Chameleon in retreat 
Miki and band as family

What the industry wants, the public gets.

Miki angered by press with no vision for female fronted bands
For the lack of imagination to talk to a band with interesting corners 
Britop was a return to the bad of the 70’s with image and marketing dictating   

TOTP and the flashing neon Siouxsie sign 

Lol went off the rails at 22 
The Cure should have taken a break 
Delivering product can destroy a band
The Brits love you then hate you, 
the USA loves you, then loves you again.

The Press Conspire!
The Cure and Miki in LA for MTV
Bands had to fight for the right to be on a UK stage 
In the USA they were simply loved and welcomed.

Lollapalooza! 

Music in America professional and respectable.
Butthole surfers wanted Banshees’ Butter in their trailer 
Banshees witness others on a traveling circus tour – Mad but Brilliant! 
Miki says the whole shebang was like a Bon Jovi tour.

Miki’s Admirable traits Revealed
Festivals - a recipe for disaster  
Miki felt weird - like endless days in an Amusement Park
Nine weeks of touring - Connections went missing 

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Respect: Nina Simone – (1933 – 2003)

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Miki and Budgie met a long time ago – was it after a Curve show?
Miki with Red hair, Budgie with blonde they were a good Match!
Struck up many enlightening conversations!!
The lost evenings with Donald - hairdresser to the stars.

Budgie drank in Heaven (Underneath the Arches) 
Picked up a date but didn’t realise it, 
Not green, but pleasant, especially after a few Manhattans!
We were all young then! Emotional Babies!

Budgie and Lol love Miki’s Memoir! 
Honest and Authentic - which it’s hard to Be. 
Miki and Lol shared the same streets of London but never met.
We walked everywhere - no phones - no way to contact 
Like a homing pigeon Budgie always found his way home 
Miki followed the tube stations - Roaming with Emma but no walkie-talkie in 5 years! 

Complex Band relationships suffer from outside pressure and from people with chisels. 
Lol empathises 100 % Miki’s experience with Emma - as his with Robert.  
Will we all ever speak again? Is Morrissey bitter? 
Many memoirs end with courtroom drama. 
Malcom was a rotter says Lydon. Morrissey needs an editor says Lol! 
That’s a complement says Miki – it’s a proper Mills & Boon.  

Miki haunted by Mike Hedges’ old house in France. 
Lol recalls a depressing Disintegration. 
But Pool table respite with Simon and the funny cue ball.  
Lol loved Miraval. The Slits loved being looked after at Ridge Farm Studios. 
Budgie met Viv again at a Berlin book festival - they had cake and tea and grown-up conversations. 

Miki is happy she had the band but happier in her new job - she’s had the best of both worlds. 
Lol wanted to be present for his son and so no touring thru’ his teens. 
We love writing as much as making music - Lol ran away at the destruction of the band. 
He came to America and America saved him.

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‘God Bless America’ – Irving Berlin. (1888 – 1989) 
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It was The Birthday Party’s 1st London gig 
When Budgie gate-crashed their dressing room 
The party was a witty one from midnight ‘til Dawn
Melting in the daylight at 7am, all bright and scrubbed.

Editing for K-Tel specials,
Nick fearlessly edits the multi-track vertically AND horizontally!
Lol bought ‘The Lamb’, with a scratch that jumped in time - A miracle!

Budgie feels the spirit of ‘76 with The Chats’ Smoko,
& Amyl and the Sniffers - Listen to the Big Bass Drum 
Lolly T and Mickey D went for Lunch in NYC 
Their Taxi driver played only hip-hop 
When The Cure came on the radio the guitars made his jaw drop!

Nick was 21 on The Dreaming with Kate Bush 
Her sonic landscape was like The Banshees and PIL
Lol never played to a click track – only to Robert’s voice 
Back when drummers kept the time!

Nick’s big plans lead to ‘Peaky Blinders’ Season 6 
Working with Anna Calvi, 
Who Budgie helped make smile again.
After Anna had destroyed her dressing room! 

And when Lol felt The Cure played a peaky-blinder of a gig,
Robert hated it and vice versa.
“That’s The Drummers Dilemma” says Budgie 
With IEM’s Lol heard Simon for the time ever! 

The Banshees and Mötörhead shared crews and gear
We all loved Lemmy - Budgie and Phil-thy ‘Animal’ Taylor
Were drummers in dance tights
We’re happy we survived – and we’re not done yet!
Iggy P., and Anna C., you heard it here first …

Respect: 
Percy Edwards – Ornithologist (June 1, 1908 – June 7, 1996)
Animal Sounds on The Dreaming

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Lol in Tasmania small and cool. 
Damien Hirst diamonds and Berlin fish Fool 
Kevorkian death blanket is the best in show
Medical flip-flops in the house of Ringo. 

Virgin Townhouse & Hedges’ Battery.  
Nick and Phil Collins in drum-fill Flattery 
Terry Chambers and XTC – in Another Green World lives a young Budgie 
Nick began life in Southern Spain – moved to London for the Pistols reign

Good with loops Nick remixed tapes  
M’s “Pop Music” gave the biggest breaks  
Got Nick the job with Lydon’s PIL
Coz’ the engineer made Johnny ill 
“Let’s make some Fackin’ music” – “We mean it man!” 
Turned Nick’s life ‘round – Lol, Clash, Budgie, Bovell, Slits can! 

Nick Cave and Budgie - harmonica Kings 
Nick and Nick Release the Bats and things
Budgie at the Rock Garden for the Birthday Party 
Lol at the Marquee but Bob’s not a Smartie?

Budgie and Bob pretend they’re themselves
Steve Strange showed Budgie how to shoplift the shelves 
Budgie in the eye of the movers and shakers 
An 8 piece Suicide band – any takers?

Nick almost Cured in the Townhouse grounds 
Cure wanted Conny Plank ‘s Animal sounds 
We’re older than the fans - but still in Our prime 
We never worked with Nick - but there’s Always time!

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When Life was bad - only music will save 
Lol & Robert see the Stranglers together 
Worship at the thrones of Tama and Zildjian
Lols first kit - took years to buy! 
Budgie’s first kit has a facelift for Cut 

Meet the creme de la creme of Liverpool misfits
Hansa signed The Cure for the way they looked  
Julianne is transformed when playing live 
Budgie loves talking to the audience - offstage
Lol prefers a big crowd – not the whites of their eyes

Julianne liked the fragrance of pipe tobacco 
But smoke never touched her vocal cords
Budgie aspired to Sobranie Black Russian
Lol smoked Capstan on the school bus upstairs  

Lol didn’t love his 50’s but loves his 60’s 
Nothing really matters is our maxim today 
Budgie is simplifying with no second guessing 
We accept each moment as our third act commences

Native American drums in Yosemite’s wilderness
Slowing the dynamo, we go with the flow 
Try not to miss those magical moments 
Sweet Love transcends All

Respect: Jet Black - ‘Golden Brown, Grip & Peaches’ (26 August 1938 – 6 December 2022)

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Julianne and Budgie in Making Music Mag.
No Makeup - No Instruments - No Agenda 
Disco 45 Mag was Lol’s fave Cure cover 
Song-Words Mag was Budgie’s 10p bible  
Glossy Crawley Colour - Grim Black & White up North 
Streets of gold or fairy slides in Glass walls? 

18 with Permed hair - Elvis Presley or Tony Curtis? 
Lol was in Thin Lizzy with his Blue Velvet Jacket and Jeans? Yeah!!
Julianne adopted Bowie’s ‘Low’, hair colour 
Budgie, Bleach and Booze at Sorbie’s Salon
All cats now greying, with blonde highlights

Running Up That Hill, (we made a deal with God to reach this age!)
Faust and Amon Düül Rule!!
Julianne was Shy and chose The Bass 
Gene Loves Jezebel loved Julianne and her bass 
Julianne loved The Beatles harmonies 
Neil Young and David Cassidy and Prog Rock
But Kate Bush was her Icon 

The Miller’s tale and The Saucy Wife of Bath  
Steeleye Span’s Now We Are 6
Ian Anderson’s Old Coat, one leg, and a Flute
Jethro Tull, was THE loudest band Julianne had ever heard.
We, hiding the Genesis ‘Lamb’ and ‘Selling England’ when punk happened! 
Charlie Watts was Lol’s bestest neighbour in Devon 

Julianne listened to some obscure bands like, 
The Cure, Siouxsie and The Banshees and Cocteau Twins 
And also, ‘And Also The Trees’ (now we know who they are 🙂) 
We all loved John McGeoch’s virtuoso brilliance – we still do.
Rum Runner and Barbarella’s Clubs Birmingham, England 
The ‘Windrush generation and a boiling point of Thatcher’s rule. 
Terry Hall and growing up in Violent times.

Respect: Terry Hall - ‘Our Lips Are Sealed’ (19 March 1959 – 18 December 2022)

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